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Post by tick_tock_tick »

Jabbles wrote: post #106

> For instance, when you're calling an airline, it can automatically find your flight details from your email and display it during your phone call. Is this really the best example usecase they can think of? How often does an individual call an airline? I'm sure in aggregate they get a lot of calls, but I don't think I've ever had to. It just seems really weird that this is the top example of on-device AI. The other…

> How often does an individual call an airline?

It's a very simple example that people can see the value for right away. It also acts as a good placeholder for hotel, car rental agency, restaurant, etc. Any place you'd have a ticket/reservation for that you might need to call.

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Post by Rohansi »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #388
Rohansi wrote: post #379

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t want the browser to even be capable of it, because regardless of what permissions and security measures are put in place, someone is going to find a way around them. You surely trust the permissions and security measures your phone provides to apps so what makes browsers worse in this area? Especially if you're using iOS where you only have Apple's web browser available to use.

Intent. Apps can only ever be installed by me, barring complicated exploit chains, while browsers can navigate without any input from me whatsoever. That serves as an extremely narrow funnel that vastly reduces surface area. This is also why I’m more receptive to installed PWAs being more capable. They’re both on the other side of my intent funnel and assuming a good implementation can’t ever navigate to domains that…

Sure, browsers can navigate without your input, but what good would that do to bypass permissions? You can't use that to automatically grant your website permissions. And permissions are isolated to specific domains as if they were separate apps, so you can't just use permissions granted on domain A from domain B.

Not everything needs to be a PWA. Yes, they're great alternatives to apps, but why should anyone be forced to install a PWA when they might only need to use the web app very infrequently? Or what if I just wanted to try some functionality out first? Installing is an unnecessary speed bump for these cases.

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Post by ge96 »

gdbsjjdn wrote: post #321
ge96 wrote: post #145

That fake zoom with AI is gross ugh If I'm taking a picture of something I want it to be real light-to-pixel action not some made up wambo-jambo

It's giving "Samsung fake moon". If generative AI is going to make up details why bother zooming in, you could just ask to make up a whole AI slop picture.

The other thing that was annoying me with a cheap phone I bought, it was applying this generic surface to your face so your face didn't have pores but it looked wrong.

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Post by rezonant »

3036e4 wrote: post #381
meuman wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4: the fact that Android has unified gestures: back, home and tray. Whenever I used iOS, I felt like every single app had a different way of going back somewhere. On Android, this is not an issue at all.

Uh. I used Android for 15 years and I still keep guessing wrong what the back button will do. Feels like 75% of the time it does not lead me back to what I expect and all apps have different ideas what they think it should do. I agree though that not having a back button at all is also not good.

Apps can have questionable Back behaviors but they all have a unified way of invoking Back.

Apps on iOS can also have questionable Back behaviors, but the method for invoking Back is not consistent.

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Post by epolanski »

jjice wrote: post #10

> Tensor G5 and the latest version of Gemini Nano work together to run Magic Cue privately and securely on your phone. Running Gemini Nano on device is the most interesting thing here. Magic Cue sounds exactly like the Siri improvements that Apple failed to launch this past year (and have stayed mostly quiet about for this coming year, except saying "eventually"). I hope it works well, because on-device AI for simple…

I hate the idea you love, so much intrusion in my life.

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Post by mmmlinux »

jauntywundrkind wrote: post #26
the__alchemist wrote: post #2

Looks like they're still only available in "Huge" and "comically oversized". I guess I can keep buying Pixel 4s until new ones (req for battery) are no longer available.

I keep thinking of how the Nexus 7 has a 7.02" screen. And how modern phones tend to be 6.1 - 6.9". But never quite 7!

Dont worry theyll all be pushing 8 now that the barrier has been broken.

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Post by shaklee3 »

tshaddox wrote: post #375
izacus wrote: post #120

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Pixel phones have won blind camera tests last few years without Apple coming close though.

This is because iPhone photos are ubiquitous which causes photos from less common phones to stand out. And the less common phones likely optimize for this A/B test scenario by e.g. increasing contrast and saturation. Meanwhile Apple likely has little to no interest in optimizing for A/B tests with minor smartphone players, and instead optimizes merely for delivering satisfying photos in the widest range of scenarios.…

That's quite an interesting way to explain why Apple does poorly in blind tests. The real reason though is that Apple's cameras are just not as good, but I suppose it's easier to explain away by making up biases.

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

do_not_redeem wrote: post #9

> Pro Res Zoom uses Tensor G5 and an all-new generative imaging model to intelligently recover and refine intricate details. Reminds me of https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/13/23637401/samsung-fake-moo... I guess we'll never be able to trust any photos taken with a Pixel 10 or above.

"Smoothing" of photos has already been on by default in Android and iOS for years at this point. You'd need to go way back to "trust" any of them.

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Post by rezonant »

dwaite wrote: post #302
mg wrote: post #94

The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

1. If the phone is bare. If you have a case (or a magnetic wallet like mine) it is stable. Rumors are they are moving to a camera bar in the next release. 2. There is a filter 'not in an album' which would do what you want. The library view is the equivalent of "All Mail" in Gmail. In newer versions, this is a distinct view - they are moving albums, automatically generated collections and search to be a primary inter…

> Rumors are they are moving to a camera bar in the next release.

If the renders out there are correct, it seems the camera modules will still stick out beyond the camera bar for some reason, so I'm not sure it won't wobble-- though it does look like the issue will be reduced

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Post by kretash »

Jabbles wrote: post #242

https://imgur.com/a/sDJTiyK That 100x zoom looks a bit... sloppy... The car has one wing mirror and the rear tire is wider than the front. Edit: this might be real, see child comments. Is there someone who knows more about cars who can confirm that this is in fact, not real?

This looks to me like something resembling a 65 mustang.

If you look at some 65 mustangs they only had a driver side wing mirror as that was the law back then. The wider rear tire also makes a lot of sense, as it's a RWD car that needs wider rear tires to support the traction.

If the car in the photo is a 65 mustang, I think the AI did pretty good.

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