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From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by baq »

makeitdouble wrote: post #381
baq wrote: post #264

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Also add a very important feature of ‘lid is closed - the computer is asleep and it wakes up when lid opens’. Both windows and Linux are simply broken in that regard. What I need is Apple MacBook hardware with a 100% supported Linux OS. This combination simply doesn’t exist and there’s no amount of money to make it happen (yes I know about asahi.)

> the computer is asleep Technically the macbook never sleeps, it enters a low power mode, except when it's blocked by specific processes or does additional background tasks (updates etc.) How well it's done on windows or linux depends on the maker of the machine (you, if you built it). The Surface lineup will also enter low power mode as flawlessly, if that's what you care about the most.

As a user I care about the damn thing not using up the whole battery overnight, not playing sounds and not running any fans; and I also care that when I open the lid, it’ll happily start doing those things because I now need it to do them. Whether technically it’s called a sleep state or not is irrelevant.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by megatron2009 »

baq wrote: post #340
rjzzleep wrote: post #283

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It's not really Linux' fault. Most It's Microsoft that forced this, and most vendors don't know how to deal with this and work proper firmware. I think Framework and Valve fixed theirs. I have a GPD and just found out that the reason I kept getting it wake from sleep was some MS related option triggering an ACPI IRQ 9 sleep wake. On another note, I actually think that the most important things that work better on the…

As a user I don't care whose fault is it. I want my laptop to go to sleep when I close the lid; I want it to stay asleep while the lid is closed; I want it to wake when I open the lid. Only macs seem to be able to do that consistently; I'd be glad to be proven wrong, but over the past decade I haven't found a counterexample yet.

Dell latitude laptops sleep very reliably. I have had 4 in a row now since 2007.

Also as a side note, as a user, I agree you don't care whose fault is it, but then this is hacker news where we are interested in whose fault it is.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by extraisland »

newsclues wrote: post #230
wolvesechoes wrote: post #181

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Guy is talking about laptop lasting for 5 years as not something that is special, and you respond with awesome sound quality. Apple threads are always so funny.

Have you used the cheap Dells and HP laptops that most people buy (not high end IBM machines)? They tend to be plastic junk. Yes thinkpads are good, but most laptops are trash disposable hardware

The consumer ones yes. The business are very reliable, and easy to repair.

I always buy second hand / refurb of repairable models.

I've been burned by Apple before. Not touching their stuff again.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by [deleted] »

Retr0id wrote: post #330
sandreas wrote: post #308

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How does the Palm-Detection work? To test this, you can do the following: Place your palm where the X-es are, then try to scroll with two fingers or move your mouse. I don't like that the mouse does not react anymore if the palm is placed there - it should just be ignored. ┌─────────────────────────┐ │XXX │ │XX │ │X │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ │ └─────────────────────────┘

I performed your test and mouse movement and two-finger scrolling still works if my palm is there. Even 3-finger window switching gestures. My palm is effectively ignored.

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Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by aquariusDue »

wongogue wrote: post #184
baq wrote: post #99

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> I have no idea how people are still using alt tab in 2025. Everything is full screen almost always. In a week I need windows tiled for maybe 2h.

This workflow is even easier on a Tiling WM. These days I use niri which at its core, is just Alt-Tab blown up as your actual desktop.

Seconding Niri, it's easier to configure compared to other Tiling WMs and has good out of the box defaults.

Though you'll have to fiddle a bit with stuff like waybar, fuzzel and xwayland-satellite. But once you've configured that stuff you won't have to fiddle with it non-stop.

I'm currently running it on Fedora, to be clear.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by Retr0id »

sandreas wrote: post #402
Retr0id wrote: post #330

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I performed your test and mouse movement and two-finger scrolling still works if my palm is there. Even 3-finger window switching gestures. My palm is effectively ignored.

So this would mean that either my configuration is bad or it might be a hardware limitation. So if you don't mind I would love to see your gsettings list-recursively | grep 'peripherals\.touchpad' Here is mine (before you ask, disable-while-typing=false does not fix my problem) : org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad accel-profile 'default' org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad click-method 'fingers' org.gnome.desk…

    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad accel-profile 'default'
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad click-method 'fingers'
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing false
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad edge-scrolling-enabled false
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad left-handed 'mouse'
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad middle-click-emulation false
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad natural-scroll true
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad send-events 'enabled'
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad speed 0.0
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-and-drag true
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-and-drag-lock false
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-button-map 'default'
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-to-click false
    org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad two-finger-scrolling-enabled true
I have a feeling the magic here is happening in apple firmware, rather than driver or software.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by SXX »

turtlebits wrote: post #370
cycomanic wrote: post #76

> But the quality of MacBooks is just another level. I had 3 or 4 so far since 2010, and each of them held at least 5 years. Crazy good. When I read things like this it really sounds like there is some reality distortion field in the mac world. How is that anywhere special? I'm running a thinkpad X1 as my 2 main laptops (it was my only work machine until 2 years ago) and I never felt the need to replace it. It gave m…

Nothing matches the build quality, display and general feel of macbooks. IME, (possibly outdated), but thinkpads have some of the worst quality displays I've ever seen.

Thinkpad x1 do have good 2.8K displays, but almost everywhere around the world they just far more expensive than comparable Macbook Air.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by machomaster »

joshdavham wrote: post #34

How confident are people that Omarchy will be well maintained in the future? I'm considering making that same switch from MacOS to Arch, but I'm not sure if I should have confidence in something like Omarchy which is relatively new.

DHH made Omarchy the official developer distro/setup in his company, so it has the support of the stable commercial entity known for its support of open source projects.

Re: From M1 MacBook to Arch Linux: A month-long experiment that became permanenent

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Post by ezst »

greesil wrote: post #303
ezst wrote: post #167

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FWIW, I liked the Pixel 4a better than the Pixel 9 I'm typing this on

Pixel 10 is heavier than the pixel 9 allegedly.

I saw that it grew by few millimetres as well… sigh.
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