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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:09 PM UTC

sho_hn wrote: post #226

bee_rider wrote: post #143

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Apple and Microsoft seem very different companies. Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best. Microsoft is the Walmart of operating system providers, that happened to buy a popular Git hosting site and briefly made noises that seemed not awful. In terms of coolness…

> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by rs186 » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:10 PM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #67

JohnTHaller wrote: post #3

GitHub will now fall under Microsoft's CoreAI team, which give some indication of GitHub's purpose and direction going forward.

You mean all of Microsoft's direction? Look at how VSCode changelogs have morphed from editing features to 90% AI.

Thank you, this does not get discussed enough on HN. I used to look forward to monthly releases of VSCode and actually read the changelog carefully to see what new features/enhancements I could make use of. These days I just glance and ignore it completely -- almost everything is Copilot, MCP blahblah. Such a disappointment.

You would think with all the AI magic, they would deliver more "core editor" features/enhancement. No, just more Copilot.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:10 PM UTC

sho_hn wrote: post #226

bee_rider wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple and Microsoft seem very different companies. Apple is stylish and cool by default, with occasional stumbles. Even among tech people, they have good will even though they seem to regard the Open Source community with total ambivalence at best. Microsoft is the Walmart of operating system providers, that happened to buy a popular Git hosting site and briefly made noises that seemed not awful. In terms of coolness…

> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

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Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by jrepinc » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:10 PM UTC

meindnoch wrote: post #404

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

And today they are even complicit in genocide and avid supporters of fascist USA dictator Trump, can hardly get less cool then that

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by timeon » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:11 PM UTC

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #78

stogot wrote: post #75

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Heres the thing: it was a dev company with a side-AI business, but now Microsoft has signaled it wants an AI-GitHub with a dev-side business. The features that will be prioritized will be AI not Git improvement

Are there any improvements to be done to Git? It seems like kind of a solved problem, like word processors or spreadsheets… most “improvements” to those are diminishing returns. I don't mean to sounds like an MS apologist, btw. I fully predicted and hoped for an exodus from Github to GitLab or something back when it got acquired — I'm from the Microsux generation.

Git? Maybe not. Faster front-end would be decent improvement.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by Melatonic » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:11 PM UTC

meindnoch wrote: post #404

pjmlp wrote: post #84

I think that just like it happened with Apple after they made it out of bankruptcy, Microsoft being the cool guys phase is slowly over. Xamarin is no more, after the whole MAUI rewrite without backwards compatibility to Xamarin.Forms, killing VS4Mac, shortly after having rewriten the underlying Xamarin based IDE into Mac, what survives is a subset of Xamarin tech for mobile and WebAssembly workloads. .NET is now cros…

Microsoft being the cool guys? The cool guys ? Mwuhahahhaa. This gave me the good belly laugh I needed. For the last 25 years, Microsoft was known for: - being the no. 1 enemy of free software - shipping the worst web browser in existence, despite 80%+ market share - making corrupt deals with governments around the world to tie them to their office software suite - creating vendor-locked proprietary extensions to kil…

Zune was actually kinda nice - although I agree nobody bought it!

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by echelon » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:11 PM UTC

herval wrote: post #302

yndoendo wrote: post #256

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You have to pay me to use Apple, Microsoft, and Google products. None of those organizations are good. Apple and Google both use immutable locked down OSes on their main products that prevents improving device security, such as IP & DNS filtering / blocking. Microsoft user experience keeps getting worse. Latest version of Teams, as of today, says I'm at the "Calendar" screen and the navigation and content screen both…

So you don't use a smartphone?

Because antitrust enforcement has been so lax, we only have two options.

The DOJ/FTC/EU/ASEAN/etc. need to force a breakup of first party app stores, first party payment, first party web browser, and first party messaging. They also really need to require web installs without hidden menus and scare walls.

We'll see a proliferation of offerings if that happens.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by powgpu » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:11 PM UTC

worik wrote: post #386

fkyoureadthedoc wrote: post #242

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> but I'd say few tech people have been excited about Apple otherwise lately, as product or platform And probably fewer still consider switching to the alternatives. Apple is, for better or worse, usually the least bad option.

No. Linux is better. That worm has turned, at least five years ago

for X_86 family for sure, but the experience on other chip set such as Apple Silicon (maybe the arms) for desktop usage are quite rough around the edges.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by Philadelphia » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:11 PM UTC

asveikau wrote: post #345

sho_hn wrote: post #226

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> Even among tech people, they have good will Wait, do they? I mostly remember: - A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality - Aimless products like the Vision Pro that seems to have failed as the "get the devs excited" premium SDK launch everyone described it as - Rocky start issues on Apple Intelligence, nerfed Siri, etc. - Unexciting iPhone launch and lots of ridicule levied on Liquid Glass It's the…

> A neglected desktop OS with slowly deteriorating quality It's funny that this exact phrase could have been written about Apple in 1998.

Mac OS 8 was new in 1997 and was pretty innovative for user-facing features, if not the underlying operating system. It blew Windows 98 out of the water as far as that went.

Re: GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation

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Post by gtirloni » Mon, Aug 11, 2025, 8:12 PM UTC

bbor wrote: post #394

coliveira wrote: post #217

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It's very funny that for pretty much any use case of LLMs, they're either too expensive or too incapable or both! There may be a few uses that make sense, but it seems to be incredibly hard to find the balance.

It blows my mind how many computing professionals truly think this is the case. It doesn't take a tech blogger to draw a trend line through the advancements of the past 2.5 years and see where we're headed. The fact that grifters abound on the edges of the industry is a sign of the radical importance of this unexpected breakthrough, not an indication that it's all a grift. To engage in some armchair psychology, I thi…

Where's your evidence though? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.