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Post by pyman »

jdross wrote: post #392
tzs wrote: post #313

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> With regards to LLM content in the legal system, law firms can use LLMs in the same way an experienced attorney uses a junior attorney to write a first pass Junior attorneys would not produce a first pass that cites and quotes nonexistent cases or cite real cases that don’t match what it quotes. The experienced attorney is going to have to do way more work to use that first draft from an LLM then they would to use…

They’re going to use junior attorneys to do that work. It’s the juniors who will be expected to produce more

What's funny about this report is that it doesn't mention the challenges China, the biggest manufacturing power in the world, faced while automating factories with AI and robots.

Considering how advanced China is, maybe it's time we stop talking about the "AI race" and start talking about the "unemployment race." The US government should be asking: how is China tackling unemployment in the age of automation and AI? What are they doing to protect people from losing their jobs?

From what I've seen, they're offering state benefits, reinforcing unemployment insurance, expanding technical education, and investing in new industries to create jobs.

So what's the US doing apart from writing PDFs? It's up to them to decide what the next chapter is going to be. One thing is for sure, China is already writing theirs.

Social discomfort can lead to long-term instability if nothing is done about it. When people are pushed out of the system, it can trigger protests, strikes, and divisions within society. This is going to be America's (North and South) biggest challenge.

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Post by OneDeuxTriSeiGo »

kortilla wrote: post #275
OneDeuxTriSeiGo wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't make me tap the "grade school biology is intentionally dumbed down because reality is complex" sign. There are countless ways someone can have a Y chromosome and still be a woman. There are countless ways someone can have no Y chromosome and still be a man. Hell there are even a small population of people who are born visibly female with female genitalia (as every human starts female before they (optiona…

Your intersex numbers are way off: https://statsforgender.org/it-is-not-true-that-1-7-of-the-po...

They really aren't. Recently (2021-2022) Mexico conducted a large random survey of the population and their results were within margin of the oft-claimed 1.7% number (their rate was 1.3% for the sample). The paper linked does some further analysis on those results [1] but the raw data is available at [2].

And their survey evaluates intersex conditions as those present at birth (even if they are discovered later in life but were present at birth).

1. https://doi.org/10.1093/pnasnexus/pgaf126

2. https://www.inegi.org.mx/programas/endiseg/2021/

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Post by Seb-C »

After winning the first cold war with a notable race to the moon, it feels now that the USA is doing everything to lose the second one with a race to the bottom.

As a non American, I just hope they don't take too long to reach it. While I'm thankful for the positive influence that the USA had in the last century, lately I feel like they only have a negative one, notably by poisoning our societies with unregulated big tech and social networks.

Whatever comes next, I can only hope that this wave of AI generated falsehoods is the last straw.

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Post by sunaookami »

jonplackett wrote: post #396
LorenDB wrote: post #60

> Encourage Open-Source and Open-Weight AI It's good to see this, especially since they acknowledge that open weights is not equal to open source.

How can this work with their main goal of assuring American superiority? If it’s open weights anyone else can use it too.

That's exactly what the goal is: That everyone uses American models over Chinese models that will "promote democratic values".

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Post by Kon5ole »

davidmurdoch wrote: post #201
mlsu wrote: post #46

In the energy section, they talk about using nuclear fusion to power AI... but not solar. What a joke.

How much land mass would need to be covered by solar panels to power this future AI infrastructure. Yes, I'm implying that solar would be impractical, but I'm also genuinely curious.

Your implication is misguided, solar is in fact the most practical way to add more electricity for most countries.

The US generated an additional 64Twh of solar in 2024 compared to 2023. To get the same amount from nuclear you would need to build 5 large reactors in one year.

As for land mass, we can re-use already spent land mass, like rooftops, parking lots, grazing farmland and such. Solar can also be placed on lakes.

So for the foreseeable future there is no actual need for new land to be dedicated to solar.

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Post by sunaookami »

mortarion wrote: post #380

All the big AI providers are going to have to deploy an American version and an international version after this. The EU will never approve of an LLM that has been aligned to regurgitate US propaganda as truth.

>The EU will never approve of an LLM that has been aligned to regurgitate US propaganda as truth.

Huh??? That's exactly what is happening right now. ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, etc.

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Post by tossandthrow »

Seb-C wrote: post #413

After winning the first cold war with a notable race to the moon, it feels now that the USA is doing everything to lose the second one with a race to the bottom. As a non American, I just hope they don't take too long to reach it. While I'm thankful for the positive influence that the USA had in the last century, lately I feel like they only have a negative one, notably by poisoning our societies with unregulated big…

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Post by weatherlite »

ninjin wrote: post #409
weatherlite wrote: post #354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Chomsky has to the best of my knowledge never showed any interest in building intelligent machines as he does not view this as a science Right, only what Chomsky works on is true science, unlike the intelligent systems pseudo science bullshit people like Geoff Hinton, Bengio or Demis Hassabis work on...

If you read the interview and walk away with that impression I will be amazed. You may not like his distinction between science and engineering, but he admits it is somewhat arbitrary and as someone that is solidly in the deep learning camp his criticism is not entirely unfair, even if I disagree with it and will not change my own course. Personally, I find it somewhat amazing that you put Demis on that list given th…

> If you read the interview and walk away with that impression I will be amazed.

I have not, but I have watched him talk about this things many times and he always seemed too sure of himself and too dismissive of LLMs, I now believe he's simply wrong.

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Post by mapcars »

can16358p wrote: post #410

> Removing Red Tape and Onerous Regulation This is the sole reason EU will never, ever catch up in big tech unless they get rid of regulations.

And this is also the reason US will never put customer rights above big tech interests.

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Post by ygritte »

thephyber wrote: post #196
thimabi wrote: post #145

I love how practically all goals in this Action Plan are directed towards incentivizing AI usage… except for the very last one, which specifically says to “Combat Synthetic Media in the Legal System”. Given that LLMs, for instance, are all about creating synthetic media, I don’t know how this last goal can be reconciled with the others.

I can’t tell if the first sentence is sarcasm or not. This document reads like a trade group lobbying the government, not like the government looking out for the interests of its people. With regards to LLM content in the legal system, law firms can use LLMs in the same way an experienced attorney uses a junior attorney to write a first pass. The problem lies when the first pass is sent directly to court without any…

> not like the government looking out for the interests of its people.

There's an idea. This government is just a propaganda machine for its head honcho.

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