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Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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From the fire into....

Into what? Though I have no illusions about any tech company, I trust Apple more than Samsung right now. It's all relative, not absolute.

It's a slippery slope. Apple is as bad as Google was about 10 years ago and things seems to be degrading faster and faster. Give it another 5 years and they will be as bad as Google/Samsung is today.

Re: Samsung embeds IronSource spyware app on phones across WANA

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Good to learn this. Was considering buying Samsung because it seems to be the only non-Chinese [non-spyware ridden] smartphone under $150. But what choices I have left now. Maybe buy a phone that can be reflashed with something open source.

And of course I don't keep anything valuable on the phone, do not login anywhere, do not install apps etc. It is an untrusted device because it does not run Linux.

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Changing from SK to CN is a trade from intentional vulnerability to unintentional vulnerability. I’ve yet to see a secure piece of software come out of China in my 30+ years of coding.

Brother you cannot be serious with this racist take

Zoomers need to leave this site.

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Saying that a culture is poor at security dev, such as Chinese business culture, is not even remotely rasist. There are many ethnicities in China, people of all genetic backgrounds. It is the culture that is the problem, not the race. For example, there are many ethnically Chinese people who grew up in the West, working in businesses, in countries where there is a culture of security. Now, you could label it 'cultura…

>>Brother you cannot be serious with this racist take >There are many ethnicities in China, people of all genetic backgrounds. It is the culture that is the problem, not the race. This just seems like nitpicking to me. Colloquially most people would classify discrimination based on country of origin, or "culture" (whatever that means) as racism, even if it doesn't meet the technical definition. For instance Trump's t…

It's entirely fair game to criticism or even discriminate based on culture, because culture is composed of actions. If people act in such a way that you do not like, that's a valid reason not to like them.

Now, we do still need to respect cultural differences where it makes sense and consider the historical context behind cultural differences, such as colonialism.

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We need regulation which defines that any hardware device capable of running software developed by a third party different from the hardware manufacturer qualifies as a general purpose computing device, and that any such device is disallowed to put cryptographic or other restrictions on what software the user wants to execute. This pertains to all programmable components on the device, including low-level hardware co…

While I agree in theory, this is never going to happen. There's too much DRM in use for it to work out.

DRM can still stick around and be popular. For example, consider an Apple TV. They make the hardware and software, so it can be locked down under the provided rules. Or a console. We might consider devices which are used for streaming or movies to not be general purpose computation devices. Which, historically, they haven't been.

Watching copyrighted stuff on general purpose computers is a very new phenomena, and it's still quite atypical IMO.

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making it nearly impossible for regular users to uninstall it without root access, which voids warranties and poses security risks Stop parroting the corporate propaganda that put us into this stupid situation in the first place. Having root access on devices you own should be a fundamental right, as otherwise it's not ownership.

My grandma should not have root on her phone and a lot of younger people as well. Making it easy to root phone makes it easy for scammers to ask people to unlock it. It should not void warranty if you unlock the phone. But security concerns are real. Mobile banking apps refuse to run on rooted phones.

> My grandma should not have root on her phone and a lot of younger people as well.

I would agree.

> Making it easy to root phone makes it easy for scammers to ask people to unlock it.

I would also agree, so then: don't make it easy.

> Mobile banking apps refuse to run on rooted phones.

... but they do run on my web browser. On a computer using open-source software without even secure boot enabled. So, it seems to me this is a cop-out by said banks. They shouldn't require client-side absolute trust to run, and evidently they actually, practically, today, do not require that. It's simply a choice they made, presumably out of laziness or greed.

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1. Install android SDK / android studio on your computer. 2. Plug phone in to computer using USBC cable. 3. Answer prompt on phone granting permission to computer. 4. Run adb commands.

Thanks, my issue so far was with the 2nd step, as if my Linux did not recognize my device. I might have a go on Windows if Linux will not work again.

Have you tried 'sudo adb start-server' before running any adb commands?

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> Seriously, you never had to provide tech support to a parent, relative, or friend whose computer got totally fucked because they had root? Literally 0 here, have you really? Like I literally do not know anyone who is even using Linux to begin with but also people do have “root” in their Windows and MacOS systems. I do not see anyone destroying their computers at random. Also to steal someone’s information you don’t…

I can only speak to the Mac situation, but most people there would not have "root" in the traditional sense:

* Pedantically speaking, you can not even log in as root, any root level access would have to go through sudo (which is indeed enabled for most users).

* But additionally, even as root, Macs by default have System Integrity Protection enabled, which makes most system files non-modifiable. Users still have full control in that they CAN disable System Integrity Protection, but that involves a reboot and some (documented) command line commands, so most users don't bother doing that.

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I suspect a strong link between mass surveillance (by corporations for advertising or by states for intelligence purposes) and the very recent targeting of the senior Iranian nuclear scientist and military officers at their homes in Iran. Wherever you are from or whatever side of the conflict you are on, I think we can all agree that it’s never been easier to infer so much about a person from “semi-public” sources su…

Weather apps are one of the worst offenders here. Almost all share your location info with data brokers if you give them location access. Check the weather today, get bombed tomorrow.

To be fair that's pretty much the forecast in both Iran and israel at the moment.

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Thanks, my issue so far was with the 2nd step, as if my Linux did not recognize my device. I might have a go on Windows if Linux will not work again.

Have you tried 'sudo adb start-server' before running any adb commands?

No. Do I have to?
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