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Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by adastra22 »

hu3 wrote: post #369
adastra22 wrote: post #151

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Cursor does this. And in my experience it gets it perfectly right 95% of the time or better. A lot of times I can start editing something and then just keep hitting tab over and over again until the change is complete--including jumping around the file to make edits in various disconnected places. Of course you can do most of this in Copilot too, but you'd expect something that maybe works and needs a lot of cleanup.…

> Of course you can do most of this in Copilot too, but you'd expect something that maybe works and needs a lot of cleanup. That hasn't been my experience with Copilot next edit feature. It often understands exactly what I'm doing and I'm able to just tab tab around the file. Like my example about variable loop scope fixing. My experience is that Copilot does everything you said including considering files I viewed p…

Reading up on this, it sounds like Copilot adopted the methodology that Cursor has been using internally for more than a year. Which is great, but if your question is "why is everyone using Cursor?" it is because many initially used Cursor when they were the only ones with this feature. I, for example, specifically switched from Copilot on VSCode to Cursor because of the spooky accuracy of Cursor's tab complete compared to Copilot, at the time. This was only a few months ago.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by adastra22 »

grub5000 wrote: post #392
adastra22 wrote: post #147

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Does cursor ever read your rules? It is constantly ignoring very clear directives in my .cursorrules file.

Have you upgraded to the new .mdc file format? I didn't get around to .cursorrules before this format came out, but I'm finding .mdc is reliable if configured well (e.g. with the right file extensions)

My understanding of the docs is that these are all handled the same: Cursor just adds any rules file to the context for each request, and that's it. I don't believe there is any mechanism by which to call special attention to particular rules in the context window. I could try renaming the file though.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by KerrAvon »

potatolicious wrote: post #388
davedx wrote: post #211

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The winners will be those that climb the abstraction ladder. The more sophisticated and useful the abstractions, the more lockin/sticky it will be

This is exactly it. Selling the output of a LLM is going to an incredibly cut-throat and low-margin business. The more interesting, novel, and useful work you wrap the LLM in the more defensible your pricing will be. That said I think this can describe a lot of agentic code tools - the entire point is that you're not just talking to the raw LLM itself, you're being intermediated by a bunch of useful things that are n…

Sherlocking won't happen. It requires them to already have the superior customer relationship.

They do need to develop sustainable end-user products, or be purchased by larger players, or liquidate.

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Post by KerrAvon »

windward wrote: post #230
dotancohen wrote: post #208

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Commercial animal feed is subsidized. So are some forms of human food in many countries. Pet food is not subsidized in my country nor the EU. If any countries do subsidize pet food, they are the exception. Maybe the US? Pet food is often manufactured from the waste of other processes, including the human food industry, but that is not a subsidiary.

All EU countries provide income support to farmers.

USA too

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by jes5199 »

smcleod wrote: post #56

I don't really see why people still use Cursor over tools like Cline / Roo Code. I'm guessing it's as they clearly have a larger viral marketing department than engineers, as the application itself doesn't perform nearly as well, requires you to have another IDE installed and their subscriptions nerf the models context sizes etc...

I tried Cline, but I like Cursor better

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by jimrandomh »

I tried Cursor, and will occasionally switch into it, but I'm having a hard time using it because its relationship to extensions (particularly extensions that the user develops and sideloads) is badly broken. I tried doing minor customization (forking the vim plugin from the github version, creating a vscode hello-world-style plugin), and while everything worked in VsCode, transferring those plugins into Cursor did not. There was no documentation for plugins in Cursor, you just had to hope that things were similar-enough to VsCode. And then they failed to load with no debugging leads.

I think this is an artifact of Cursor being a closed-source fork of an open-source project, with a plugin architecture that's heavily reliant on the IDE at least being source-available. And, frankly, taking an open-source project like VsCode and commercializing it without even making it source-available is a dishonorable thing to do, and I'm rooting against them.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by MichaelZuo »

jimrandomh wrote: post #416

I tried Cursor, and will occasionally switch into it, but I'm having a hard time using it because its relationship to extensions (particularly extensions that the user develops and sideloads) is badly broken. I tried doing minor customization (forking the vim plugin from the github version, creating a vscode hello-world-style plugin), and while everything worked in VsCode, transferring those plugins into Cursor did n…

That does seem a bit shady… is there really still no documentation on this after they’ve raised so much money?

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by saratogacx »

brandall10 wrote: post #410
dimal wrote: post #407

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How are people using Claude Code day to day without spending a lot? I tried it on a moderately complex task and it chewed through tokens at an alarming rate. I quickly spent $2 and hadn’t even arrived at an adequate solution yet. I’ve heard other people say they’ve spent $10-20 in a coding session. I don’t see how that’s sustainable for me, so I’ve stuck with my $20/month Cursor subscription.

They use a plan - Pro and Max are static plans with different caps over 5 hour sessions.

Pro isn't a static plan. Pro subs can access Claude Code but are paying via API metering. I have it setup at home and, while I haven't used it much, it can quickly add up.

What I did do, because my personal projects aren't too complex, is moved the model from Opus to Sonnet which is about 1/5 the cost.

For day-to-day stuff I have ProxyAI (on IntelliJ, continue.dev works for this too) pointed at Mistral's Codestra for auto-complete and to Claude 4 for chat.

Claude Code is just for giving the bot tasks to do without me being deeply involved in the work.

(edit) I just saw that pro is getting a rate-limited option for Claude code for the sonnet model only. I haven't tried it out but will give it a go sometime. https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/11145838-using-cla...

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by coolKid721 »

goosejuice wrote: post #386
coolKid721 wrote: post #375

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For any professional SWE 1/200 a month is basically nothing in terms of the value it delivers. They just rolled it out to the 20/month plan with limited usage but as soon as people get used to it I have no idea why they wouldn't upgrade unless they are just entering the field and don't have a job yet.

Anyone pulling that a month not working for themselves doesn't have to think about the cost. That kind of salary is paid by corps with strict privacy policies. Unless you do nothing else with your time I'm not sure how you'd utilize the $100/mo plan fully.

the pricing is for token usage in 5/hr windows not monthly caps. if you use it intensely a couple times a month within a 5hr window it's not hard to hit the cap and want to upgrade. Personally I just work on some side projects during work on another monitor and just every half an hour so throw something at it and that's been very valuable for me.

Re: Cursor 1.0

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Post by GiorgioG »

And for months now Cursor on Windows loves to run a 'q' command which doesn't fucking exist..so every time it executes a command line command I get this:

C:\projects\my_project>q^D^C 'q' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

1.0 my ass.

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