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xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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You cited your sources, but they are flagged and removed :) Because dang them, right?

HN (and the mods) seem to hate nothing more than a well-sourced, well-structured long comment. The sources are still there though.

That actually looks like forcing their view, censoring you just because they might not like your position. Useful, you cannot do a thing. Your comment is simply gone. I might wanted to save it, but it’s no longer.

Yet, they did not bother to remove my useless neighbouring comment, only flagged it. I’m not surprised anymore. Not the first time I see this behaviour.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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As a Telegram user, I don't mind having an interface to Grok that is outside of X.

I agree with you. But this is why we must champion open protocols and open source software. I absolutely believe both LLMs and social media platforms should be federated and controlled by the user.

Yeah, I'm not contesting that at all. I think Telegram sold its soul a long time ago, so I kind of just treat it as a self-contained socially oriented splinter-net with its own integrated app environment... and it's actually really cool and feature rich. I also find Grok to be an LLM that performs pretty well, so I don't mind the integration, much the same way I didn't mind the AI integrations into WhatsApp, but I understand that many people just want a messenger that's a messenger so I can understand the pushback.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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Well, as a 9-year user of Telegram, I expected some monetization and paid mode, but looks like we're going to be used otherwise, for more free cheese.

I had my doubts before, but this was the proverbial drop in the bucket: I removed my account. People can still contact me via phone, sms, email, or Signal, or by just ringing at the door.

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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I don't understand how Telegram is still around. The app has zero support, even for paid users. You can't rely on it, and unlike Meta products, where at least there is someone to escalate to, in Telegram it's nonexistent. My account was taken over by a malicious actor, and I can't get it restored no matter how many emails and DMs on X I've sent them. Zero response

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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I don't understand how Telegram is still around. The app has zero support, even for paid users. You can't rely on it, and unlike Meta products, where at least there is someone to escalate to, in Telegram it's nonexistent. My account was taken over by a malicious actor, and I can't get it restored no matter how many emails and DMs on X I've sent them. Zero response

Because it's the only social network that mixes blogging/feeds (channels) with anonymous chats and public groups. Most other messengers require your phone number to be exposed (although WhatsApp has been fixing it lately).

Re: xAI to pay telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat app

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I don't understand how Telegram is still around. The app has zero support, even for paid users. You can't rely on it, and unlike Meta products, where at least there is someone to escalate to, in Telegram it's nonexistent. My account was taken over by a malicious actor, and I can't get it restored no matter how many emails and DMs on X I've sent them. Zero response

As someone that has friends on every chat platform out there, I must say that Telegram is the most polished chat app in existence. Everything just works. I notice bugs in WhatsApp all the time, but hardly ever with Tg. Even stuff like video chat and video messages has always been reliable and fast. As a developer, the API is amazing... in 30min you can make a bot and publish it. The real shame is two fold: chats are not encrypted by default and there's so. much. bot spam on the platform. These two problems have made it my least favorite platform, even though the usage experience is the best.
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