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Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by fuzztester »

fuzztester wrote: post #346
Lutger wrote: post #319

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It doesn't, but the sentence referred to wasn't really aimed at them. I mean, Mozilla could ditch its engine and adopt chromium in order to really focus on advertising, and then it would also support said features from an end users perspective! Somehow I have a feeling that won't earn Mozilla praise. For all its flaws, Mozilla is actually the ONLY other company building a browser engine. When its gone, there will bas…

what happened to opera? i used it a good amount earlier, when it was relatively new, but then some issues happened, which I don't remember clearly, then i stopped tracking it.

thanks, guys.

i googled:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(company)

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by tbr11 »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #309
pouulet wrote: post #233

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The tags are exported : https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/exporting-your-pocket-l... What is contained in the export file? Your export file will include links (URLs) of your saved items. The export does not extract the text of saved links. Additionally, the export does contain tags or highlights.

The page was "Last updated: 24 minutes ago". Someone at Mozilla saw this HN post and modified it (unsure if the export feature itself was changed or not). You can tell it's a rushed edit as "Your export file will include links (URLs) of your saved items. The export does not extract the text of saved links. Additionally, the export does contain tags or highlights." reads very unnatural. Via Wayback Machine, it can be…

My export from March had tags, my guess is this docs page just got missed when they updated the export months ago

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by godzillabrennus »

echelon wrote: post #391
mewse-hn wrote: post #386

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The DoJ is arguing in court that Google should be barred from paying off Mozilla because of Google's search monopoly https://www.theverge.com/news/660548/firefox-google-search-r...

That's so hilariously backwards. Google should be split into several business units [1], should be forced to give up Chrome [2], and should be forced to invest several billion of its war chest into competitors. That's what the DOJ would do if it still had balls. The fact that there's no money in a product like Firefox is insane . It's absolutely bonkers. There is so much value in it, yet everybody's favorite mega mon…

BRICS is a cancer on par with Google.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by Henchman21 »

lillecarl wrote: post #381
Henchman21 wrote: post #347

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All my hopes are with Ladybird now

My hopes are with Servo, I like the novelty of it being implemented in Rust rather than C/C++. I follow Ladybird and appreciate their work. Especially implementing everything from standards, fixing standards and keeping it easy to follow the standards in code (and I'm proud Andreas is Swedish too). But for something with the surface area of "everything you can do with a computer and it's uncle" a memory safe language…

I’m not super familiar with Servo; I’d heard of the Mozilla layoffs but hadn’t followed the work. I believe I can now split my hopes between the Ladybird and Servo; thank you!

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Post by twilo »

mikemcg0 wrote: post #374
bayindirh wrote: post #287

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I have another theory, actually. I'm also a very old user, since the first days of the service, and I don't know how many saves I have it inside (will see when my export arrives). The latest iteration's search was abysmal , and I normally refrain from using strong words. It failed to find exact matches from titles, the words or excerpts I know that exist in the article I'm searching for, and as a result, it became a…

Agree on search being abysmal - I'm surprised that none of these readings apps realized that the right approach to this space is building an aggregator and solving discovery/search for all writing on the internet. perch.app is the newest entrant to this space, and it's the closest I've seen to getting this right.

Best alt other than perch? For whatever reason I can’t get it to show up in the share/send menu on iOS and doesn’t seem to have a browser extension.

How do you send articles to it?

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by echelon »

godzillabrennus wrote: post #413
echelon wrote: post #391

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That's so hilariously backwards. Google should be split into several business units [1], should be forced to give up Chrome [2], and should be forced to invest several billion of its war chest into competitors. That's what the DOJ would do if it still had balls. The fact that there's no money in a product like Firefox is insane . It's absolutely bonkers. There is so much value in it, yet everybody's favorite mega mon…

BRICS is a cancer on par with Google.

I won't argue on this as it's orthogonal.

Sovereignty of your country's smaller businesses over monopolies, and sovereignty over data and data privacy is paramount.

Every country should be trying to tear Google apart. It isn't just too big, it's a black hole that is eviscerating competition.

The US, Canada, all of the members of the EU, India, and even our geopolitical rivals should be trying to regulate and/or break up Google.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by tristanho »

oa335 wrote: post #320
tristanho wrote: post #144

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You can connect Pocket to Readwise Reader ( readwise.io/reader ), via Pocket's API, which will let Reader view all the tags, metadata, highlights, etc. Even if you didn't want to use Reader, you could then export from inside Reader and Readwise to pull out CSVs of all of your articles+highlights -- no subscription required. (full disclosure: founder of Readwise here, obviously if you want to try our Reader app that w…

Love your app. Any plans to enable reading of Readwise Reader articles on eReaders like Kobo? I’m thinking of something akin to how Pocket’s integration with Kobo.

Thanks! Kobo is hard because it's proprietary software, but we would like to...

However, there is a wide range of eink devices that already exist that run Android (check out Boox, Meebook, Daylight, though there are many others) -- we've optimized Reader to run great on these devices :)

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Post by tlavoie »

This might be a more manual solution for Kobo imports, but I've taken to saving pages of interest via Joplin's web clipper extension. Pages can be saved as Markdown, HTML, screenshot, or URL. If I save the Markdown version (typically looks fine), it will have also saved linked images. Exporting that to another folder gives me something that I can convert to epub, using Pandoc. From there, it's trivial to copy over to my Kobo as before. Of course, this already would have been readable on my phone, since my notebooks also sync across devices.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by dcchambers »

Lmao.

I'm sorry, but lmao.

Mozilla just cannot get out of their own way. All we want is a good open fucking browser not dominated by a corporation, and they can't stop distracting themselves with things that don't matter and then eventually shutting them down.

Mozilla needs to clean house of their leadership. Burn it all down. Start from scratch. It's a joke right now...and I say that as a daily user of Firefox and someone that desperately wants them to succeed.

SOMEONE needs to be held accountable for failures like this...but all we will get is vague half apologies and corporate bullshit.

Re: Mozilla to shut down Pocket and Fakespot

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Post by KPGv2 »

_def wrote: post #18

> Your export file will include links (URLs) of your saved items. The export does not extract the text of saved links. Additionally, the export does not contain tags or highlights. boo! without the tags, the links will be mostly useless for me. Every now and then I thought aboyt switching to some self-hosted solution. Should've done it sooner... and I will never trust Mozilla with any service again.

I just got my export, and it has the tags.

Fields are: title, url, time_added, tags, and status

The tags field is a pipe-separated list of tags

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