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Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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SirMaster wrote: post #408
voidspark wrote: post #199

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Hey we're talking about a future scenario where AGI actually exists and is vastly better at software development than any human, and can do it much cheaper than current developer salaries. We're talking about science fiction which may become true much sooner than most people expect. I would be competing with cheap AGI services so it makes no difference whether I am a freelancer or not. > Being a software developer is…

You sound really jaded and close minded to me in your posts. If AI replaces software development, the only reason you are "done" is because you are jaded and close minded and seemingly unwilling to adapt to the world and life.

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Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by voidspark »

SirMaster wrote: post #408
voidspark wrote: post #199

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey we're talking about a future scenario where AGI actually exists and is vastly better at software development than any human, and can do it much cheaper than current developer salaries. We're talking about science fiction which may become true much sooner than most people expect. I would be competing with cheap AGI services so it makes no difference whether I am a freelancer or not. > Being a software developer is…

You sound really jaded and close minded to me in your posts. If AI replaces software development, the only reason you are "done" is because you are jaded and close minded and seemingly unwilling to adapt to the world and life.

You are totally misunderstanding the point. I am talking about the hypothetical AGI/ASI scenario where ALL jobs are replaced by machines. Not just software development. The economic value of human labour drops to zero. This is not just about me and my own little career. It would impact everyone.

This is a serious topic that is being discussed and debated at a high level. It is an existential threat to human society. It could be catastrophically disruptive. No one knows how it would play out. There could be severe economic inequality and stratification of society unlike anything we have seen in the past.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by SirMaster »

voidspark wrote: post #412
SirMaster wrote: post #408

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You sound really jaded and close minded to me in your posts. If AI replaces software development, the only reason you are "done" is because you are jaded and close minded and seemingly unwilling to adapt to the world and life.

You are totally misunderstanding the point. I am talking about the hypothetical AGI/ASI scenario where ALL jobs are replaced by machines. Not just software development. The economic value of human labour drops to zero. This is not just about me and my own little career. It would impact everyone. This is a serious topic that is being discussed and debated at a high level. It is an existential threat to human society.…

IMO there's no point in average people worrying about something like that.

That's like worrying about the Yellowstone supervolcano erupting.

No matter how much you worry and prepare, it's all over, so why worry or prepare?

IMO it's like a doomsday prepper. Sure you may live a little longer in your bunker, but who even wants to live like that for very long?

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by BobaFloutist »

tasuki wrote: post #405
BobaFloutist wrote: post #371

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I guess the risk would be that the cost of compute would explode out of control long before you got a viable solution. To give a bit of an absurd example, I imagine there's a reason it's not currently worth it to generate the code with a random character generator, even though hypothetically that would get you there eventually. If we consider AI a much, MUCH better version of a random character generator (let's say i…

Just time box it then?

Ok in that case I guess the risk would be that it simply wouldn't work and you'd lose whatever time and compute happened in the time box. Which would be a pretty cheap price to pay, but I imagine you'd only try it a few times before giving up and using a different strategy.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by kyriakos »

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #133
mindwok wrote: post #36

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The impact of AI on creative fields will be pretty nuanced I feel. I don't think we will end up in a world where everyone is just AI generating the media they want. In some cases we will, for example stuff like lo-fi beats on YouTube are already started to be bulk made by AI because really it's just fancy white noise for people to use to work. Actual music (like what you find on Spotify) I think won't be impacted ver…

I could see myself listening to AI music in Spotify, not as the main act but at least as a Plan B. For example, I like a specific music genre, Italodance, which was popular in the 90s and then disappeared. The problem is that I have listened to all of it, as far as I know. No more is being made. If an AI model could make more for me, with decent quality, I'd probably listen to it.

If you listened to all of it chances are ai will not be able to generate anything that sounds remotely different than what you already are familiar with.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by voidspark »

SirMaster wrote: post #413
voidspark wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are totally misunderstanding the point. I am talking about the hypothetical AGI/ASI scenario where ALL jobs are replaced by machines. Not just software development. The economic value of human labour drops to zero. This is not just about me and my own little career. It would impact everyone. This is a serious topic that is being discussed and debated at a high level. It is an existential threat to human society.…

IMO there's no point in average people worrying about something like that. That's like worrying about the Yellowstone supervolcano erupting. No matter how much you worry and prepare, it's all over, so why worry or prepare? IMO it's like a doomsday prepper. Sure you may live a little longer in your bunker, but who even wants to live like that for very long?

I am actually not worried about my situation. ASI is unlikely to arrive that soon.

HN is a place for nerds to discuss technology and its future impact. Nothing has more disruptive potential than AI.

"Governments worldwide (e.g., US AI Executive Order, UK AI Safety Summit, EU AI Act), international organizations (UN), leading AI researchers (including pioneers like Geoffrey Hinton and Yoshua Bengio who have voiced strong concerns), major tech companies, and dedicated research institutes (like the Future of Life Institute, Machine Intelligence Research Institute, Centre for the Study of Existential Risk) are actively discussing, researching, and debating the implications and safety of advanced AI."

"If ASI concentrates wealth and power in the hands of those who own or control it, while simultaneously rendering most human labor economically valueless, the resulting inequality could dwarf historical examples based on land, capital, or industrial technology ownership. It raises fundamental questions about resource distribution and societal structure in a post-labor world."

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by jaggs »

eucryphia wrote: post #7

You know what the biggest problem with pushing all-things-Al is? Wrong direction. I want Al to do my laundry and dishes so that I can do art and writing, not for Al to do my art and writing so that I can do my laundry and dishes. - Joanna Maciejewska You could add music

That's a crummy quote to be honest. Not everybody has the ability to be creative on their own, so AI can help expand the demographic of creativity to those who may not have the basic skills. In the same way that word-processors help those who may not be able to write 'proper' English create prose that is acceptable. It may never be great art, but if it fulfils a a personal need, then why not?

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by jaggs »

That's weird. I just learned about a new music generation model called Lyra today, based out of Luxembourg. What's the odds on a similar sounding name in the same field appearing in the same week? I've got to say I don't think I'd relish going up against Google in a brand fight though. https://blog.aiva.ai/.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by dataviz1000 »

Tepix wrote: post #284
dataviz1000 wrote: post #32

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Ugh, why can't AI fold my clothes so I can spend more time on Hacker News writing comments?

Because AI can do the commenting better than you...?

But, can AI fold clothes better than I...? This 'tis the question.

Re: DeepMind releases Lyria 2 music generation model

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Post by metalman »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #402
metalman wrote: post #315

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The anouncement of the "death of the band" is premature.I dont believ this for a second, nothing can replace live music played by humans, as the experience and the very real positive benifits of an audience comming together can not be digitised, in spite of the many attempts to package high tech simulated environments. There are hundreds of thousands of full time touring musical groups world wide, and millions of mus…

> nothing can replace live music played by humans, as the experience and the very real positive benifits of an audience comming together can not be digitised I wish it were true but I'm also very aware of how many people I see in audiences today are scrolling instagram while the band plays. > There are hundreds of thousands of full time touring musical groups world wide, and millions of music festivals every year. Th…

8 billion people, maybe 9 billion...200000 bands that gives one band for every 42500 people..... 23 bands in a city of a million was a pure guess, but low right
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