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I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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> > Standard mail forwarding lasts 12 months. You can pay to extend mail forwarding for 6, 12, or 18 more months (18 months is the maximum). That's kind of awkward when you consider people will find that address for source code where that license file just wont be updated for decades to come, if at all.

We need DNS, but for mail addresses.

Even moving once has made the need for this clear to me, it boggles my mind that it isn’t a (common) thing.

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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post #379

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I mean it is the fallback method. The solution for the "I never heard of this internet thing, or something else is preventing me from finding the licence online" problem. Almost everyone will just use their search engine to find this page: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.en.html What can you do to serve the licence to those who can't or won't do that (for whatever reason)? I think it is hard to find…

I mean, part of the problem is I didn't own a pen at the time. I have multiple computers and phones, I thought that was the interface to the post-2000 world. I do have paint, but that's a little clumsy. I grudgingly own a box of BIC pens now, but ... It's like requiring people to own a horse to do something these days. And in past experience during school days, those goddamn BIC pens all go bad (ink dries up or somet…

Bravo! I cannot tell if this is a satire of something. Can some explain the joke, if any?

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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Not sure if it's being exaggerated for comedic purposes but it is interesting to me how alien the act of sending a letter by post is to the author. Granted I don't send them very often but I wouldn't think much of it if I had to. But I guess younger people and particularly those in tech may genuinely never need a reason to send a letter (or, it seems, write an address by hand).

> Writing the address on the envelope was awkward, as I haven’t used a pen in several years; it took a few attempts and some wasted envelopes, printing the address would have taken less time.

Sometimes I cut out my address from a bill and tape that on as my return address. I know it’s formatted right.

I’d definitely do the same on a “self”-addressed stamped envelope that I need returned.

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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At least he got a response. Meaning the address didn't change mostly. A few years back I worked on an embedded linux project. For our first "alpha" release one of the testers read through the license agreement (as opposed to scrolling past all that legalese like most people do) and found the address to write to to get all the GPL source, he then send a letter to the address and it was returned to sender, invalid addr…

reminds me of this old joke. Two testers walk into a bar, the first says "i'll have a beer please" and they get their beer as expected. The second says "I just want water" and they get the water just like the asked. Then a user walks into the bar and asks "where's the bathroom?". The bar explodes.

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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post #236

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That's recent enough that mail forwarding should work, if they set it up: > Standard mail forwarding lasts 12 months. You can pay to extend mail forwarding for 6, 12, or 18 more months (18 months is the maximum). Edit for source: https://www.usps.com/manage/forward.htm

> > Standard mail forwarding lasts 12 months. You can pay to extend mail forwarding for 6, 12, or 18 more months (18 months is the maximum). That's kind of awkward when you consider people will find that address for source code where that license file just wont be updated for decades to come, if at all.

since this is hacker news... i once had some trouble changing mail address from one supplier (they would send the materials to the new address, but insisted on sending billing/tax info to the old one) so i did the mail forward process some three times + their extensions (i recall it was 6 + 3mo or so)... it got me close to 3 yrs of reliable mail forward from the great folks at usps until i could get thru the supplier personnel thick skull.

the only issue "redoing" the request is that people at the old address can block it, so be sure to talk to them first.

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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The sender didn't specify the version in his request, so I find it natural that they've sent him the latest version.

The author mentioned this exact problem. Quoting: > There was a problem that I noticed right away, though: this text was from the GPL v3, not the GPL v2. In my original request I had never mentioned the GPL version I was asking about. >The original license notice makes no mention of GPL version either. Should the fact that the license notice contained an address have been enough metadata or a clue, that I was actuall…

Well to be fair, that's not the full license notice, that's only the last paragraph. There should a couple more above that one and the first paragraph says the version of GPL in use. That said I think the license notice is also just a suggested one, it's not required that you use that _exact_ text.

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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post #215

> After a few weeks of waiting, I eventually received the ‘African Daisy global forever vert pair’ stamp which was round! I should have noticed that the seller sent me the item using stamps at a much lower denomination that those I had ordered. Oh well. Wild that so many commenters don't see the satire dripping from the post. Is it just a UK thing to never take things at face value?

I don't understand the satire, can you explain? We can't see the full set of "lower denomination" stamps on the letter, but I'm not 100% sure it's actually lower denomination. The sender of the stamps seems to be using the "2 domestic forevers + some amount of cents = 1 global forever" formula. I think the UK sender didn't need to include _two_ global forevers.

I think quoting that part alone, didn't make it clear I was referring to the whole article.

>...... "Oh Well."

May have been more apt.

Is eBay really anyones first thought when looking for a (non-collector) stamp to (actually) mail?

Perhaps he should have picked up a few £1 coins on eBay, use them to purchase some stamps from the post office?...

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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post #30

At least he got a response. Meaning the address didn't change mostly. A few years back I worked on an embedded linux project. For our first "alpha" release one of the testers read through the license agreement (as opposed to scrolling past all that legalese like most people do) and found the address to write to to get all the GPL source, he then send a letter to the address and it was returned to sender, invalid addr…

The Free Software Foundation closed their office at 51 Franklin St in August 2024 [1]. Their new mailing address is on 31 Milk Street [2]. If this test was reproduced today, we may see different results ;) [1]: https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/fsf-office-closing-party [2]: https://www.fsf.org/about/contact/mailing

This test isn't about writing to the FSF, it's about writing to the vendor who supplied the software.

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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>12. Went to another USPS to drop the package You have a USPS drop box for tiny boxes in front of your house.

I do? Where?

Mailboxes are bidirectional. If there is outgoing mail in the mailbox your postal worker will take it to the post office. That is what the flag is for. Not sure how well this is adhered to anymore, to be fair. I could be out of date.

Re: I wrote to the address in the GPLv2 license notice (2022)

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> > Standard mail forwarding lasts 12 months. You can pay to extend mail forwarding for 6, 12, or 18 more months (18 months is the maximum). That's kind of awkward when you consider people will find that address for source code where that license file just wont be updated for decades to come, if at all.

We need DNS, but for mail addresses.

CGP Grey, a youtube channel, has a video on some of the problems of the postal codes and addresses from earlier this year that I learned about alternates to my familiar US based system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1K5oDtVAYzk
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