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Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by SahAssar »

tough wrote: post #403
dewey wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't post AI replies.

it's a factual thing I learned after following the comment threads and asking the AI about it, it does link to the source article. Why is this bad? I will, im just wondering, would only the link to the source article been better/acceptable here? I dont' get the hate for AI replies if they're on topic and generated by a human tbh, but ill respect it since its not first time seeing this i guess

Just link the article if you have nothing more to say. If you absolutely insist on posting AI-generated stuff be extremely clear that it is AI-generated instead of hiding that it has been ghostwritten by a LLM.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by LeoPanthera »

meonkeys wrote: post #350
LeoPanthera wrote: post #45

I really want to use Jellyfin for music, but unfortunately it separates albums based on directories and not by reading the metadata, so if you have an album separated into "Disc 1", "Disc 2", etc, each disc shows up as a separate album. I really don't want to restructure my library just for Jellyfin, so I basically can't use it.

Pretty sure it does use metadata and folder/filename as fallback. Musicbrainz Picard is great for normalizing metadata for music files/albums, maybe give that a shot.

It does read metadata, but splits albums by directory regardless. And my metadata is already correct.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by tough »

SahAssar wrote: post #411
tough wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's a factual thing I learned after following the comment threads and asking the AI about it, it does link to the source article. Why is this bad? I will, im just wondering, would only the link to the source article been better/acceptable here? I dont' get the hate for AI replies if they're on topic and generated by a human tbh, but ill respect it since its not first time seeing this i guess

Just link the article if you have nothing more to say. If you absolutely insist on posting AI-generated stuff be extremely clear that it is AI-generated instead of hiding that it has been ghostwritten by a LLM.

makes sense thanks for the feedback

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by kgwxd »

dankwizard wrote: post #95

This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

Those features can, and should, be made completely separate from the system that hosts the media. In fact, they used to be, with great success.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by mixmastamyk »

bugfix wrote: post #376
dash2 wrote: post #340

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> It is just crazy how easy it is to set this stuff up nowadays. I run both Navidrome and Jellyfin in docker containers…. Wow, I’ll get grandma to do it! Ha ha, just kidding, but I’ll try it myself. Ha ha, just kidding. Honestly, I just want to scream “self-hosting isn’t going to happen, stop trying to make it happen.” I absolutely welcome the hobbyists doing this fun stuff in their free time, but the idea that they…

Those aren't competitors of Spotify/Netflix; they're alternatives for people who are willing to tolerate small inconveniences to have full control over their library. Of course it's not as easy as signing up for Spotify/Netflix, but setting them up is easier than ever (even easier for tech people).

Cheaper too.

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Post by LMSolar »

grepexdev wrote: post #188
lolive wrote: post #178

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Spotify « radio » is the best reason to listen to real radios ! [honestly the DJs on most of the radios I listen to are insanely skilled !] Btw, is there somewhere a search engine to know when a given [set of] track was played where, in the internet radio world?

This! I recently ditched Spotify and rediscovered radio in the past few weeks. There are so many great songs I've come across from bands I enjoy that I had never heard of because, as someone else said, Spotify's algorithm is way overfit.

For a certain range of indie pop, KCRW's Eclectic24 is great: https://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/eclectic24

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by skyyler »

hypercube33 wrote: post #346
Affric wrote: post #295

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100% No algorithm has been able to be able to be as weird but consistent as a community radio DJ. The radio can still surprise and delight like little else. All the tech companies have been able to replicate is the disappointment. Not to say never but people’s great advantage here is that they’re people.

I respectfully disagree. If you're into classic rock those stations are pivoting around here to 90s and 2000s rock since that's "classic" now. Then you're left with ButtRock stations that play mostly the same thing every day at the same times in the same order. The best radio we had in our area was a college station that has an hour or two of stuff I'm interested in or as close to a legal pirate radio you can get (10…

Community radio DJ. Community being the important part.

Most of the radio stations here in Columbus, Ohio are what you described, the clearchannel / IHeartMedia stations.

However, there is an independent radio station and it's so great. They play Democracy Now! during the daytime and they have a rotating list of shows for the evening. I've heard some really great music during the evening shows.

https://www.wcrsfm.org/

If you're in Columbus, tune in to 98.3 or 92.7 FM!

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by lucsky »

tomrod wrote: post #351
lucsky wrote: post #309

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Yes it is. If it's not available for you then blame the fucktard lawyers who made the call that it should not be available wherever you are for some dumbfuck reason. Spotify is not responsible for this, they just comply with the aforementioned fucktard lawyers.

Their point is at a higher level than a single artist's inclusion. What you're advocating is for artists to give up their rights (whether primarily or indirectly negotiated). "Just do what the lawyers say." I didn't think Spotify had fanboy/fangirl followings, but based on your and others' comments, I stand corrected. What do I know!

I fully support artists to decide what they want to do with their music, but artists who sign contracts with labels and music companies do give up their rights, like it or not, that's how it works. And yes, Spotify enforces contracts and geographical licensing deals that dumbfuck lawyers invent because reasons. What would you want them to do, break IP laws?

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by wallstprog »

someonehere wrote: post #93

If you haven’t been keeping up with Plex, self-hosters like myself and others are up in arms over the client rewrite. It feels like the Sonos update for us. Broken features. Useful functionality removed. UI that’s more streaming focused than self-hosting like it used to be. If you haven’t gone down the Plex path yet, don’t right now as the community and developers sort out their roadmap. Plex seems to be open to feed…

On another note, Jellyfin can look inside .iso files, which afaict Plex is not able to. Very handy with my collection of ripped dvd's.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by ajyey »

dash2 wrote: post #340
tastysandwich wrote: post #141

For music, Navidrome is superior. It is just crazy how easy it is to set this stuff up nowadays. I run both Navidrome and Jellyfin in docker containers. Then I use NordVPN Meshnet to securely connect to them outside of the home. The experience is absolutely flawless. In Navidrome you can host an entire FLAC library and then transcode to Opus on the fly. It's been over a year now and I have pretty much no issues whats…

> It is just crazy how easy it is to set this stuff up nowadays. I run both Navidrome and Jellyfin in docker containers…. Wow, I’ll get grandma to do it! Ha ha, just kidding, but I’ll try it myself. Ha ha, just kidding. Honestly, I just want to scream “self-hosting isn’t going to happen, stop trying to make it happen.” I absolutely welcome the hobbyists doing this fun stuff in their free time, but the idea that they…

Disagree. With a little bit of technical knowledge which I’m assuming most people browsing hacker news have, these services are easy to spin up and use.

If you can read a README you can set up Navidrome and point it to your local library in 5 minutes.

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