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Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by AlotOfReading »

markus_zhang wrote: post #393
laweijfmvo wrote: post #311

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There are plenty of us that would love to just sit and fix things all day, but then you get a poor performance review for not shipping new features and find yourself out of a job :)

I wonder how can I join MSFT or Apple just to fix stuffs? Don't care about salary as long as it's on par with my current one.

That's not how Apple works. You'd be given requirements specific to your team and expected to implement them. End of story. You wouldn't be empowered to seek out other teams and fix their stuff (or even necessarily talk to them). It's deliberate and intentional to have very few people with that cross-functional power.

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Post by refulgentis »

markus_zhang wrote: post #393
laweijfmvo wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of us that would love to just sit and fix things all day, but then you get a poor performance review for not shipping new features and find yourself out of a job :)

I wonder how can I join MSFT or Apple just to fix stuffs? Don't care about salary as long as it's on par with my current one.

I thought this once, it's a disappointing experience. You'll hear all the right things, and 3 years in, realize nothing you do matters to anyone, and that's because all the managers who were so excited about your passion for software quality haven't met with you in a 2 years. And then it clicks, they got promoted by knowing the game: features, resembling the rushed planning deck, delivered yearly. (This is a whole lot easier to whine about after banking the salary for 7 years, of course)

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Post by bigyabai »

mfer wrote: post #360
dandellion wrote: post #342

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I know the feeling. I'm forced to use a Mac laptop for work, and it's really made me appreciate Linux.

Which distro do you use? I've run a mac and Linux laptop and the Linux setup keeps sending me back to Mac.

NixOS, for me. I deal with a lot of wild development environments, so flakes + direnv has probably saved me hundreds of hours and a few system reinstalls.

Nix is also availible for Mac, but I'll warn you that it may ruin Macports and brew for you forever.

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Post by WorldPeas »

4ndrewl wrote: post #85

I wouldn't call Apple's hardware as premium quality. Premium price yes, quality no - not since PowerPC times. I was an owner of the original crackbook, have had a magic keyboard, magic mouse both fail shortly after warranty period, I can't count the number of power leads that have started fraying (thank goodness for USB C!). Ass for iPhone screens - seem to be very breakable compared to other manufacturers.

No manufacturer can even come close to the translucent pinstripe g4, so easy to open, so much expandability. Hard to imagine it was made by apple, same goes for my 2012 mbp

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Post by lobochrome »

flohofwoe wrote: post #68

Here's my personal canary in the coal mine that something must be fundamentally broken in Apple's software development process: - on a recent macOS version, right click on the desktop, select 'change wallpaper' => the new settings panel opens - click on 'Custom Color' - now hold and drag around the 'color cursor' in the color selection circle for a few seconds - stop dragging and notice how the color cursor continues…

Yeah - also can't reproduce. Maybe some helper is messing around with you?

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by visviva »

K7PJP wrote: post #357
flohofwoe wrote: post #68

Here's my personal canary in the coal mine that something must be fundamentally broken in Apple's software development process: - on a recent macOS version, right click on the desktop, select 'change wallpaper' => the new settings panel opens - click on 'Custom Color' - now hold and drag around the 'color cursor' in the color selection circle for a few seconds - stop dragging and notice how the color cursor continues…

I can't repro this on macOS 15.3.1 with an Apple Studio Display. What display are you using? It's likely something related to color space translation. Edit: Repro-ed using the additional steps you mentioned below. As someone who handles external bug reports and writes them, it's so often the case that there are additional steps or a specific start state required, which both prevents reproducing the bug and narrows th…

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Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by kazinator »

My work Macbook sometimes drops random characters from the lock screen password input. You hit a key and a black dot does not appear; the password is consequently rejected.

It's not exactly this: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/458099/macos-lock-...

The system is not lagging at all.

It's not this:

https://mjtsai.com/blog/2023/08/29/mac-wont-accept-correct-l...

It's a bit like this, but only for the system password dialog and nowhere else:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/1azl16n/macos_skippi...

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by jimbob45 »

jamesy0ung wrote: post #369
enlightenedfool wrote: post #337

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What exactly did you find so much worse in windows?

The built-in bloatware (LinkedIn, TikTok, Clipchamp, etc.), the constant nagging (like full-screen reminders to buy Office 365 to "protect" your PC), Edge is basically forced on you. MSVC has insane licensing terms — you can’t use it outside of Visual Studio or VS Code, not to mention it's lacking support for C. Windows seems actively user and developer hostile. Beyond that, Windows' architecture is a mess, I hate it…

Why use MSVC at all? You can hook up alternative compilers to both VS and VSC with ease.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by kazinator »

Apple has no decent solution for the issue of the cursor moving if you accidentally touch the touchpad while you're typing text (other than disabling the touchpad and using a mouse).

Like they couldn't implement some heuristic that could be enabled in settings, to ignore touches that occur close to simultaneously with textual keystrokes.

Several times a day, I'm typing, and suddenly, the cursor jumps in the middle of earlier text where a fragment of the tail end of my typing goes before I notice and stop. I then have to undo that, and retype it at the end.

Re: Apple's Software Quality Crisis

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Post by xedrac »

mfer wrote: post #360
dandellion wrote: post #342

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know the feeling. I'm forced to use a Mac laptop for work, and it's really made me appreciate Linux.

Which distro do you use? I've run a mac and Linux laptop and the Linux setup keeps sending me back to Mac.

I run Fedora these days. Ubuntu is the worst.
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