I started Tirzepatide 3-4 weeks ago. (Mostly as an experiment to understand the hype around GLP's... I don't have diabetes and only very slightly overweight at 20% body fat). Even at the lowest 2.5mg starter dose which you're only allowed to stay on for 1 month: - Extreme appetite suppression to the point where I've started calorie counting specifically to make sure that I'm eating enough. It's incredibly easy to for…
This sounds like my whole life, I've always been trim and have never understood the joy people get from food. Facinating to see there's a drug that recreates that physiology.
GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
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Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Big food corporations profit from ultra-processed foods that manipulate our natural systems. I've just never bought this. Does grandma manipulate you when she adds sugar to her cherry pie? Does she manipulate you when she adds salt to her mashed potatoes? Foods -- "ultra-processed" or not -- don't "manipulate" you. They literally just either taste better or taste worse. Grandma, and her grandma before her, used sug…
You should visit a food processing plant sometime. What they are doing with food is not what your grandma does when she cooks it from ingredients you can buy at the grocery store. And I bet your grandma doesn’t have a food chemistry lab to fine tune her recipes. Similarly, fig trees don’t make Fig Newtons. They make figs.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#413The real trend is deflation. People are having fewer children. Fewer miles are driven to fewer offices for fewer trips in cars. Fewer impulse buys are being made and fewer dollars will be made by advertisements (according to the ops conjecture). This is not inflationary. It is the opposite. We live in a deeply deflationary world and we should not be confused by the local, transitory inflation that we may be experienc…
This! Consumption is made of impulse choices. (most of the times). Also we are having fewer children, does this drug reduce also the impulse of having sexual desires? In that case that would be even worst.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#414Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those side effects are from injecting weekly doses, right? I'm curious if daily oral doses which are smaller will solve a bunch of these problems at once, while also mitigating the supply-chain problems.
My wife was on daily doses and it made no difference. She's now having long-term problems, over a year after getting off of it.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#415Earlier quoted context omitted.
It isn't. 20% body fat is 6% below average. That isn't "merely overweight", it's likely underweight. No, I don't think underweight people should take appetite suppressants and I don't think that qualifies as a hot take. I think anyone who is medically overweight (which is a very modest BMI qualifier for anyone with any amount of muscle) should have the choice. Many US medical systems and insurers agree, which is a go…
>it's likely underweight. The only way this can possibly be correct is if you think that the "correct" weight is whatever the population average happens to be which is just...wild to me. If we assume commenter is male (a statistical likelihood), then 20% is the high end of normal, and could very safely be halved. In the less likely case that they are female, then it is right in the middle of the normal range, and cou…
The medical definition of overweight is basically if you're some number of standard deviations above the average from whenever they ran the stats, so population average = correct weight seems like as reasonable a standard.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#416For the rest of the world, not so much. For America however, this is a huge disruptor. The pride associated with having a body shape that a well trained Ai would classify as Manatee rather than Human is rapidly changing and _eventually_ society will be better off for it.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ozempic has been in use for diabetic patients for at least a decade if you want to look at the research of its long term results in that population - which is fairly large to constitute a good sample sizing.
So that means we'll have a good twenty years of data to finally look at, which is what I was saying. I do not trust any medicine unless it has far more data than what we have in this regard at this point. I work in a related field and I can simply say most things we trust should not be trusted and should require far more testing.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#418I started Tirzepatide 3-4 weeks ago. (Mostly as an experiment to understand the hype around GLP's... I don't have diabetes and only very slightly overweight at 20% body fat). Even at the lowest 2.5mg starter dose which you're only allowed to stay on for 1 month: - Extreme appetite suppression to the point where I've started calorie counting specifically to make sure that I'm eating enough. It's incredibly easy to for…
I don't have a published study to back this up, but in my 10 Giving a GLP-1 to a heavy drinker/alcoholic results in a skinny alcoholic. Given that the overwhelming majority of alcohol is consumed by heavy+ drinkers this isn't the gamechanger people think it is.
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#419Obesity causes many health problems, but it's also a symptom - of our poor relationship with food, of the way American society is set up around instant gratification, of the predatory nature of food manufacturers. Though treating the symptom is undeniably good, it also lets the deeper problems that lead to it go unchecked, and my fear is that it will lead to novel problems down the line. How recreational drugs are be…
Re: GLP-1 drugs: An economic disruptor? (2024)
#420For years, I had the opposite problem most have with their weight. My main problem was gaining it. Food was not enough - I will loose weight relying on food alone. It seems that with food, I often don't like the taste or texture, or the sensation associated with eating. I also tend to feel full relatively quickly. My solution was to make a shake - in this shake, I put a large amount of olive oil, mixed in with other…