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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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> "financial terrorist" As a thought experiment, I like to wonder what would be the maximal amount of damage to humanity an extremely wealthy person could do entirely legally. Or if not damage, just trolling. For instance, writing X on the moon or something like that.

> entirely legally. Hypothetically, would it be legal to fund a president whose policy was "let's nuke everyone"?

Apparently, the answer is "yes"

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How do you mean? There were major loans to buy Twitter, but AFAIK Musk brought on a bunch of other people so that's not entirely on him. Other than that what is he extended into?

His companies are supporting each other in weird ways like xAi intercepting Tesla's GPUs, xAi being separate from X which is where it's used, Boring building one of its few tunnels in a Tesla factory for ???, the employees from one working at another, etc. there's probably a lot of shenanigans going on to make each company look OK at the right times. The one that has to be somewhat transparent is looking pretty shaky

Yeah, I can't find the link but apparently a lot of the improvement in x/twitters results are due to xAi paying x to advertise.

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I wonder that as well. I'm pretty sure there's manual manipulation involved sometimes.

Thinking about it, I consider it possible that pg is afraid of the Trump administration. He rightfully called David Sacks names for his actions in the Parker Conrad case. It might be subjective, but I believe that since the election, his language on his Twitter feed has changed significantly as well. I believe he wants no further conflict - the paypal mafia has too much power to harm him now.

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Gee, at some point hard to tell if Elon is not just the guy on stage for whoever holds the (purse) strings.

Yea probably Soros and the free masons are still running the show /s

I mean, in this case it would be the Saudis.

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I typically like Elon about 70% of the time, but I need to agree here. I don't quite understand how he suddenly got so much influence.

He founded (for some definition) the two most impressive American corporations of the century and tweeted a lot to build a direct connection to people.

I’m wondering under what definition he “founded” Tesla rather than being the investor who took it over years later kicking the founders out?

I’d give him SpaceX, but it definitely did better when he was paying less attention to it.

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Don't you think that the brand is huge though? It has become a household name and it's synonymous with artificial intelligence. They're also supposed to get grotesque amount of investments which is supposedly more than twice the value of what Musk offered(They have %40 stake in the project Stargate, which is supposedly $500B thing).

You talk numbers, so let me ask you a numbers question: at their current valuation, if the brand is 60% of the value that’s top 5 estimated brand value. Is OpenAI really one of the five most valuable brands in the world?

How did you choose 60% as the brand value ratio?

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was looking for a musk margin call in 2023, no such luck, now he’s VP and markets are still fake

My hope is that he'll eventually make some big mistakes that will send him to jail. Or does presidential grace give him total immunity?

Given Musk is currently pissing off foreign governments, there is a real danger that one of those governments will just send in a nice looking person with some tea to have a quiet chat with him.

After which, he will look very tired, and suddenly stop being "turbulent", as per the meaning several judges have recently noted in Trump trials was once infamously said by a king of a priest.

Then I will be sad, because I would have liked to have gone to Mars.

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What’s impressive about Tesla? It’s already being outcompeted by companies in China, losing market share, and the other manufacturers are catching up. Besides that, he’s pissed off the demographics most likely to buy Teslas. It’s not like most Trump voters are buying EVs

> What’s impressive about Tesla? The fact that it's worth more than all the other automakers combined. > the other manufacturers are catching up Re-read what you wrote, and consider how preposterous it is that automakers founded more than a century ago are now "catching up" to a company that sold its first car in 2008.

> The fact that it's worth more than all the other automakers combined.

"Tesla stock price is too high imo"

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) May 1, 2020

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> Come on ... think! Explain their moat to us dummies.

Start with China spending ~$2 billion to start DeepSeek by training in on OpenAIs outputs, and more to falsely claim it was an independent operation on only a $5million [0] . It did initially create a problem in the markets, and put out a bunch of bad assumptions. But the mere effort put in to undermine it shows it is in the front — OpenAI is the one out front with the target on it's back.

Will OpenAI be brought down? Maybe. But they do have the lead, and are running like they mean to keep it. The future is not yet written.

[0] https://wccftech.com/ai-markets-were-deceived-to-believe-in-...

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