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Post by kbelder »

dingnuts wrote: post #358
knallfrosch wrote: post #343

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In 2-3 years, devices will run this locally.

Oh, they will? Someone else on this site told me they would be running locally in 2-3 years, back in 2022. Someone on this site also assured me ten years ago that we'd have full self driving by 2020.

>locally in 2-3 years, back in 2022.

That's pretty much accurate. Mine's been up and running on my clunky old home machine for 6 months, and I just this morning overheard a couple coworkers talking about the local llms they're running. Right now a substantial minority of PCs could run useful models. Usage is at the stage where it's small and growing rapidly. Early adapter phase, but all you need is a relatively modest years-old GPU to handle something like this model.

What isn't done, and probably won't be for a while, is a nice generic framework so we can tie their local llm into all sorts of local apps and processes. The big players all want us to use cloud services.

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #159
michaelmrose wrote: post #156

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What is more likely that they are lying or it doesn't work as well in their configuration as yours? The good faith answer is that it is probably the latter.

Yes, it is more likely he pulled 30% number out of thin air, I'm confident about that.

I did pull the number out of thin air, so let me replace that with "often enough to be annoying and make the browser unusable for me.

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Post by sitkack »

dralley wrote: post #112
sitkack wrote: post #80

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Firefox needs to be forked and owned by the people. I'd pay $1 a month for a browser run by the people. Management and extension options could be rolled out for government, business, education, etc. There are so many models where the browser thrives, the org that shepherds the browser thrives, and the people thrive. Firefox is like the shitty best option that camps out in its niche, it sucks but it is really hard to…

> I'd pay $1 a month for a browser run by the people. You and approximately 5 other people. Paid browsers in 2024 are not a path to mainstream success, especially if you are what Firefox is - a fully independent tech stack down to the browser engine and not a barebones reskin of Chrome. A reskin of Chrome would have very low development costs. Firefox does not.

That is simply not true. I donate a little under 1k a month, there are many like me. Mozilla is not an org that I would feel comfortable funding given the perverse incentives that they have aligned themselves with.

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Post by ajcp »

sebazzz wrote: post #391
ajcp wrote: post #321

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> For the current version, we are using a Mistral LLM (Mistral 7B) hosted within Mozilla’s GCP instance. Based on this I would assume they are using GCP Vertex AI as that's going to be WAY cheaper than rolling it all themselves and hosting the model on a GCP server instance. I would also assume they'd be using the gcloud SDK for Vertex AI/Model Garden, which I believe means they can't just provide for a different end…

Would have been cool if you could connect it to a local running Ollama instance. You metnion GCP Vertex AI, is that something like MS Copilot Studio?

It's Google Cloud Platforms "AI" service[0], so actually more analogous to what is now called Azure AI Foundry[1], and what used to be called Azure OpenAI Studio.

Microsoft Copilot Studio[2] (formally Power Platform Power Virtual Agents) imho is unique in it's enterprise AI offering. I truly think Copilot Studio is going to be Microsoft's "killer app" when it comes to companies utilizing AI at scale internally, and not it's Azure service.

0. https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai

1. https://ai.azure.com/

2. https://copilotstudio.microsoft.com

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Post by jamieplex »

reissbaker wrote: post #60
endofreach wrote: post #46

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> The minute Mozilla starts being relevant in search, Google will cut their billions USD/year sponsorship, killing Mozilla in the process. The incentives are not there. Google needs mozilla more than anyone. It would be a big win for the web if google stopped financing mozilla and had to deal with the consequences.

Why does Google need Mozilla at this point? Firefox has 2.6% market share. Sure, I imagine the cost/benefit ratio is slightly positive for Google, but Mozilla needs Google since that's the majority of their revenue; the reverse is definitely not true.

Wow, that little? I LOVE Firefox. I guess that market share should either make me feel real good, or quite lonely...
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