OpenAI whistleblower found dead in San Francisco apartment

Post by z3c0 » Sat, Dec 14, 2024, 7:59 PM UTC

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Good lord, what an atrocious Gish gallop of selective quotes and evidence. This might be one of the worst displays of sharpshooter logic I've ever seen. AND it features a quote from William Pierce, an infamous neo-Nazi. Probably more, but I gave up after the umpteenth unverifiable quote. Just goes to show how much modern right-wing propaganda aligns with traditional neo-Nazi propaganda.

> Good lord, what an atrocious Gish gallop of selective quotes and evidence. This might be one of the worst displays of sharpshooter logic I've ever seen. Ease up on the throttle there, LessWrong. You've blown the transaxle.

Post by withinboredom » Sat, Dec 14, 2024, 8:03 PM UTC

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Then you just make those friends a target. They only need to buy-off or kill 3. It is unlikely the general public would know of them, so it likely wouldn’t be reported on.

I wonder if having some sort of public/semi-public organization of trading parts of SSS's could be done. Right now, as an individual, you'd have pretty small number of trusted N's (from parents definition). With some organization, maybe you could get that number way up, so possibility of destroying the entire scheme could be close to impossible with rounding up large number of the population.

Post by RachelF » Sat, Dec 14, 2024, 8:39 PM UTC

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Agreed. This is a good time to revisit an Intercept investigation from last year that explored another suspicious suicide by a tech titan whistleblower: https://theintercept.com/2023/03/23/peter-thiel-jeff-thomas/

Indeed, public speculation is what keeps these cases from getting swept under the rug.

Post by timschmidt » Sat, Dec 14, 2024, 8:56 PM UTC

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The model isn't trained on journalism only, you can't even isolate its training like that. It's trained on human writing in general and across specialties, and it's designed to compete with humans on what humans do with text , of which journalism is merely a tiny special case. I think the only principle positions to be had here is to either ignore IP rights for LLM training, or give up entirely, because a model desig…

This seems to be putting the cart before the horse. IP rights, or even IP itself as a concept, isn’t fundamental to existence nor the default state of nature. They are contigent concepts, contigent on many factors. e.g. It has to be actively, continuously, maintained as time advances. There could be disagreements on how often, such as per annum, per case, per WIPO meeting, etc… But if no such activity occurs over a v…

Post by bmacho » Sat, Dec 14, 2024, 9:13 PM UTC

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> So in your view, when a human does it, he causes a minute of harm so we can ignore it, but chatGPT causes a massive amount of harm, so we need to penalize it. Do you realize how radical your position is? Yes, that's my view. No, I don't think that this is radical at all. For some reasons or another, it is indeed quiet uncommon. (Well, not in law, our politicians are perfectly capable of making laws based on the siz…

Don’t obfuscate, your view is that the stack overflow commentator, Quora answer writer, blog writer, in fact anyone who did not invent the knowledge he’s disseminating, is committing a small amount of evil. That is radical and makes no sense to me.