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Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by kadoban » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:15 AM UTC

pcblues wrote: post #316

breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

Agreed. He seems to be smart enough to never be caught. Could just be the need to be liked/famous/known. On the other hand, he might not have expected to be noticed by someone who knew him. That's a real 0.01% you can't predict in your perfect planning.

How many similar crimes go unsolved? It can't be common. I doubt it's a matter of just being smart.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by garrettgarcia » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:16 AM UTC

pcblues wrote: post #316

breadwinner wrote: post #44

He was carrying all of the evidence with him, including the fake ID he used at the hostel, the gun & suppressor, mask, and even a handwritten manifesto that points to his motivation. It seems he wanted to be found.

Agreed. He seems to be smart enough to never be caught. Could just be the need to be liked/famous/known. On the other hand, he might not have expected to be noticed by someone who knew him. That's a real 0.01% you can't predict in your perfect planning.

He doesn't seem smart at all... He took off his mask in front of a camera to flirt with a receptionist. He left a long extensive trail of evidence. He manifesto sounds like it was written by a 14 year old. It only took him four days to get caught. Like most criminals, he is not smart.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by throwaway314155 » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:17 AM UTC

Why not use the original title ("Luigi Mangione: What we know about CEO shooting suspect")? Why the need for sensationalism over his status as a software engineer?

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by Blackthorn » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:25 AM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #389

matrix87 wrote: post #368

I don't know if this has been posted already, but here is his manifesto https://archive.is/2024.12.09-230659/https://breloomlegacy.s... Sounds like both he and his mother were suffering from chronic pain and UHC dicked them around and refused to act in good faith

I doubt this is real. The New York Times mentions that he comes from a prosperous family - seems incongruous with his mother lacking healthcare desperately. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/who-is-luigi-man...

Joe Biden, the vice president of the United States at the time, was seriously struggling with healthcare costs. Prosperous families can quickly become unprosperous from healthcare in this country.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by Vampiero » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:25 AM UTC

garrettgarcia wrote: post #412

pcblues wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. He seems to be smart enough to never be caught. Could just be the need to be liked/famous/known. On the other hand, he might not have expected to be noticed by someone who knew him. That's a real 0.01% you can't predict in your perfect planning.

He doesn't seem smart at all... He took off his mask in front of a camera to flirt with a receptionist. He left a long extensive trail of evidence. He manifesto sounds like it was written by a 14 year old. It only took him four days to get caught. Like most criminals, he is not smart.

Like most criminals who get caught*

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:28 AM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #389

matrix87 wrote: post #368

I don't know if this has been posted already, but here is his manifesto https://archive.is/2024.12.09-230659/https://breloomlegacy.s... Sounds like both he and his mother were suffering from chronic pain and UHC dicked them around and refused to act in good faith

I doubt this is real. The New York Times mentions that he comes from a prosperous family - seems incongruous with his mother lacking healthcare desperately. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/who-is-luigi-man...

I would buy that a wealthy person would have the anger and the resources to learn how to stalk, make a plan, use a weapon. Poverty is a drain on your mental capacity for nearly everything else besides survival.

Also I don’t doubt that his mother would lack healthcare desperately even when wealthy. Women in pain are one the biggest demographics of denied healthcare. Even extremely wealthy, well-connected women.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by yencabulator » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:31 AM UTC

profsummergig wrote: post #239

How did someone recognize him from that half-face photo? There must be millions of people in the East Coast who look like that.

What if they first noticed a gun bulging in a pocket, and then made the connection?

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by goodluckchuck » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:33 AM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #389

matrix87 wrote: post #368

I don't know if this has been posted already, but here is his manifesto https://archive.is/2024.12.09-230659/https://breloomlegacy.s... Sounds like both he and his mother were suffering from chronic pain and UHC dicked them around and refused to act in good faith

I doubt this is real. The New York Times mentions that he comes from a prosperous family - seems incongruous with his mother lacking healthcare desperately. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/09/nyregion/who-is-luigi-man...

The underlying point of the manifesto is that insurers have corrupted medicine itself. Regardless of whether the care would be covered, the doctors were trained to diagnose and treat in a way that isn’t designed to cure, but to “care.” Sure, she had visits and specialists and diagnoses and it was largely incompetent, because incompetent doctors are cheap in a system where inaction has no real consequence.

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by hsavit1 » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:34 AM UTC

garrettgarcia wrote: post #412

pcblues wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. He seems to be smart enough to never be caught. Could just be the need to be liked/famous/known. On the other hand, he might not have expected to be noticed by someone who knew him. That's a real 0.01% you can't predict in your perfect planning.

He doesn't seem smart at all... He took off his mask in front of a camera to flirt with a receptionist. He left a long extensive trail of evidence. He manifesto sounds like it was written by a 14 year old. It only took him four days to get caught. Like most criminals, he is not smart.

It’s very difficult to not get caught in a total over militarized surveillance state. He is not stupid

Re: What we know about CEO shooting suspect

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Post by tbrownaw » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:37 AM UTC

garrettgarcia wrote: post #412

pcblues wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. He seems to be smart enough to never be caught. Could just be the need to be liked/famous/known. On the other hand, he might not have expected to be noticed by someone who knew him. That's a real 0.01% you can't predict in your perfect planning.

He doesn't seem smart at all... He took off his mask in front of a camera to flirt with a receptionist. He left a long extensive trail of evidence. He manifesto sounds like it was written by a 14 year old. It only took him four days to get caught. Like most criminals, he is not smart.

Is having bugs in your code proof that you're not smart, or is it more likely momentary carelessness or even just that humans always have a non-zero error rate?