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Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by wisenull »

randmeerkat wrote: post #334
xattt wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple keeps a lot of owners addicted to their phones by making Watch support exclusive to iPhone. I’d love to go dumbphone and a Watch synced to an iPad at home, but this is not an option.

>…addicted to their phones by making Watch support exclusive to iPhone. Buy a Garmin watch, battery life measured in weeks, and you’ll never have to re-enter your pin again because it moved on your wrist. You’ll still get great fitness tracking though and also notifications if you choose to sync them.

I would love to buy a Garmin watch but Garmin Pay doesn't support a lot of banks yet. It's a shame because their battery life is on a league of its own.

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Post by michpoch »

jsheard wrote: post #214
michpoch wrote: post #104

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Then it’d also get the IPad Pro price?

120hz panels are dirt cheap at this point, look beyond the Apple ecosystem and they're everywhere at nearly every price point. Even barebones office monitors meant for doing spreadsheets are often ~100hz now, there's no reason to make them 60hz when faster panels are more or less the same price.

> now, there's no reason to make them 60hz

Product differentiation.

Promotion is a way to make clients upgrade to iPad Pro. One of the very few left.

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Post by sergiobeluti »

metadat wrote: post #182

Why is the bezel so thick? A 1-2cm bezel around the entire "mini" device seems a bit odd, given that the iPad Mini is a relatively tiny device and phones these days come with a 1-2mm bezel (10x less useless border). Is it a cost saving measure / sneaky margin increaser, or what might be the motivation? Edit: Touch interference is a good idea. Still, from the picture, it looks like the bezel could be half as thick and…

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Post by yreg »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #382
zombot wrote: post #380

Selling machine learning stuff as "intelligence" raises false expectations and is ultimately fraud. I can't wait for this whole overblown hype to crash and burn.

I dunno, it could be construed as a marketing phrase well enough, not unlike other technologies they have - True Tone, Cinema, etc. I mean the Apple TV isn't a TV. Autopilot is more henious I think because it was actually marketed as autopilot.

Autopilot literally does what it means

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot

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Post by yreg »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #388
zombot wrote: post #380

Selling machine learning stuff as "intelligence" raises false expectations and is ultimately fraud. I can't wait for this whole overblown hype to crash and burn.

That's an Apple thing. They developed this habit (if not addiction) after bringing features to their devices very late, sometimes a decade later than their competitors. They thought it was better to call those basic features with fancy multi word names with ™ symbols at the end and that resonates with their fan base in perfect harmony. So I think the habit stuck.

Oh yes, because the other companies don't call machine learning 'intelligence' ;)

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Post by maven29 »

Tagbert wrote: post #317
metadat wrote: post #182

Why is the bezel so thick? A 1-2cm bezel around the entire "mini" device seems a bit odd, given that the iPad Mini is a relatively tiny device and phones these days come with a 1-2mm bezel (10x less useless border). Is it a cost saving measure / sneaky margin increaser, or what might be the motivation? Edit: Touch interference is a good idea. Still, from the picture, it looks like the bezel could be half as thick and…

Bezels are useful for devices that you can’t just hold in the flat of your hand. Provides a place to hold on to. Also, this is an LCD screen. The substrate is rigid. An OLED, like on the iPhone is on a flexible substrate and can be bent at the edges to connect to the circuit board. That lets you put the screen closer to the edge.

The technique you mention is very outdated and not used anymore. Current thin-bezel OLED panels (even on flexible substrate OLED) use a packaging technique which can be used in the exactly same way on rigid LCD panels. Folding the substrate with driver bonded is expensive, affects yields, and doesn't even get you the thinnest bezels

There are no LCD panels in recent phones that use COG packaging (chip-on-glass) for the display driver and run into the limitation you mentioned. Almost all current LCD phones will utitlize COF (chip-on-film) where the TFT array is attached to a flex-pcb which also contains the display driver.

You can achieve bezels just as thin or thinner using this technique, and Apple has used the technique you mention only once, COF is used even on flexible OLED panels.

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Post by giancarlostoro »

nfriedly wrote: post #270
metadat wrote: post #182

Why is the bezel so thick? A 1-2cm bezel around the entire "mini" device seems a bit odd, given that the iPad Mini is a relatively tiny device and phones these days come with a 1-2mm bezel (10x less useless border). Is it a cost saving measure / sneaky margin increaser, or what might be the motivation? Edit: Touch interference is a good idea. Still, from the picture, it looks like the bezel could be half as thick and…

Maybe I'm weird, but I don't mind having a bit of bezel around the screen. It makes the device easier to grab without extra touches or fingerprints on the screen. It's also a good place for cameras and front-facing speakers. (Although I don't think any iPad has front facing speakers.)

I only ever saw one tablet with front facing speakers and I am to this way still baffled why I only saw one altogether, it seems like the most sensible design for a tablet.

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Post by oktoberpaard »

saagarjha wrote: post #402
dyauspitr wrote: post #299

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How is that possible? The camera icon is in the bottom left corner of the screen and you use the physical lock button on the side to lock the iPhone.

If you reach for the top left corner your thumb will naturally come into contact with the bottom right corner of the screen, assuming you are holding the device one-handed (in your right hand).

I’m trying to picture this, but I can’t. If I hold and lock my iPhone with my right hand, I press the lock button with my thumb. If I try to reach the top left corner, I either do that with my left thumb (mostly) or index finger (sometimes), or with my right thumb (very awkward movement on a Pro Max). In none of these cases my right thumb comes in contact with the screen or even close to it. Maybe because I use the backside of my pinky finger to lock the phone in place.

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Post by amelius »

eastbound wrote: post #290
browningstreet wrote: post #220

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I’m forever triggering the camera app, while locking the device, on my iPhone 15 pro max. Every day, regularly.

I click on ads by mistake on my iPhone 15 pro max. Even the iPhone SE was better, with its bottom bezel. Thumb detection on iOS is very bad.

You're holding it wrong.
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