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Post by doublepg23 »

FireBeyond wrote: post #322
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> Apple makes an excellent product Contrarian opinion on the AirPods. Apple says that they think the new noise cancellation "auto adjust" is better on the "human" side of things, and the social - they showed an interaction where the barista started talking to the wearer, and the AirPods adjusted so the barista could be heard. To me, that's not social, I think it's actually anti-social. It moves the onus onto anyone w…

I think that ship sailed a while ago.

I was doing retail work around COVID and there were many many people who didn't have the decency to hold phone calls while checking out let alone taking off headphones.

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Post by chrismatheson »

tmaly wrote: post #380

I am not seeing a real benefit to upgrading. I wish I could just swap in a new battery myself once I have gone through enough charging cycles. I just upgraded to an iPhone 15 pro from an iPhone 13 pro a few months ago. Honestly, I felt like the iPhone 13 pro had better battery life. My friend confirmed the same thing between a regular iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Pro. Not sure if it is software or hardware or both.

You can. I took my 13mini to Apple paid the Apple tax and now I’m happy to not be forced into a uncomfortably larger physical device for at least mother year or two

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Post by vitaflo »

throwaway290 wrote: post #9
jsheard wrote: post #4

The non-Pro models are still only 60hz? C'mon man, high refresh rate is hardly a luxury feature anymore. At least give them 90hz and reserve 120hz for the Pro models.

PWM probably too? I keep waiting for the return of sweet smooth LCD but I guess my 11 is the last model...

PWM absolutely kills all iPhone purchases for me. It's why I'm still using an SE.

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Post by njbentley1 »

talldayo wrote: post #355
davidy123 wrote: post #336

I've been an Android user since day 1, but am very impressed by some of these features. I'd love to have the half-click to focus feature and other dedicated camera button features, macro, a few other things that put this generation in a next category. I'd like to see them catch up and surpass all of Google's onboard AI features, and it looks like they're working on it. Being able to find a section of a video by a vag…

> I'm glad strong competition is continuing, especially around privacy. Until Apple releases an iOS platform equivocal to AOSP, there's really not any competition at all. Apple claims to care about privacy, Google proves they do.

I disagree.

Google’s entire business model is dependent on personal data. AOSP may have privacy features that are verifiable but Google Play Services is not open source and undoubtedly collect lots of data for Google. Most AOSP-based phones all largely include GPS. Sure, you can limit what access GPS has but then you’re sacrificing features. The majority of people probably opt-in.

In contrast, Apple doesn’t need your data for most of the products / services they sell. Privacy is a selling point, so they’re incentivized to build robust privacy features. I’d love to see more commitment to open-sourcing underlying technologies but imo Apple is way more privacy conscious than Google.

I will however give Google credit for their privacy initiatives in recent years. They seem to be taking it more seriously.

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Post by runako »

iteratethis wrote: post #347
cmeacham98 wrote: post #310

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> She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. I find this example interesting, because on the android side I would rank these two in the top 10 _most_ notable improvements made to phones in the last 5-10 years. I have had multiple "normies" use my phone in the last few years and ask why it felt so smooth - and every time the difference between my phone and theirs has been a hig…

The lack of distinction between LCD and OLED can be explained. The specific condition in which OLED thrives rarely occurs. You'd need deep blacks in low ambient light viewing conditions for it to really stand out. iOS, most apps, most websites, even most video isn't mastered as such and not consumed in those conditions.

I wonder if watching TV/movies on phones in bed at night is a normal use case. I thought it was a normal thing that many/most people do, but this comment suggests that perhaps my social circle is odd in that way.

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Post by mhink »

Tepix wrote: post #344
IgorPartola wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

Also, AirDrop and mobile hotspot are unreliable, if Apple could make them always work, that‘d be noticeable.

For AirDrop, at least, I've found it to be very reliable, with one caveat that always tripped me up before I realized it: *the recipient's phone needs to be unlocked*. This completely changed the game for me, and now me and my wife use it all the time.

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Post by 015a »

wlesieutre wrote: post #356
015a wrote: post #329

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Heck, I have friends in tech that in the past did iPhone 4, 6, 8, whether you were an "even number" or an "odd number" iPhone buyer became something of a label. One of these guys is on the 11 Pro, has the 16 Plus in his cart, but is actively texting the group chat whether or not to go through with it. If you feel Apple isn't actively facing a xx% risk to their business by 2030, you're beside yourself. Its not that pe…

It's the camera for me, especially 5x zoom lens in the big phone instead of the enormous phone. But if I do go through with it I'll be coming from a 4 year old phone, so I'm already not in the $1000/year market. If they're able to figure out a mass market VR headset that will give them another push for new phone sales. I hear the "spatial photos/videos" are very cool.

VR also isn't it. The best case scenario for Vision is that it becomes a I think the broader problem is that no one knows what "it" is; what comes next. We had web3, crypto, AR, VR, now AI, but none of these things feel like they have the horsepower to launch another $30B in quarterly or even annual revenue for Apple.

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Post by lloeki »

iteratethis wrote: post #332
IgorPartola wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

Agreed on battery life. It's such a pity that advances in battery tech is never given back to the user. As for green text, this is purely a US thing. Most of the rest of the world uses Whatsapp.

Most of the rest of the world doesn't give a rat's ass about bubble colour and just use SMS, including for sharing pictures.

I don't have WhatsApp and literally nobody ever asked me to use it, even if I know they have it. they just flat out don't care as long as a message gets across.

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Post by yodsanklai »

iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

> If the iPhone would have true user-swappable batteries, their business would collapse.

Don't underestimate the power of marketing.

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