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Re: NASA investigation finds Boeing hindering Americans' return to moon

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Post by mnky9800n » Fri, Aug 16, 2024, 9:31 PM UTC

imtringued wrote: post #365

boppo1 wrote: post #350

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My undergrad is in finance. IMO the problem is that we don't really teach what wealth is as Adam Smith defined it. A wealthy nation is not the one with the greatest stockpile of gold, but the one with the most quality goods and services easily available to its average citizens (I'm paraphrasing a bit, but you understand). Smith really stresses that profit is a measurement of the good provided to society by an activit…

War is profitable in capitalism, because the dogma is that capital is productive and must net a positive return. In the underutilized capital scenario, idle capital incurs costs, but no benefits. It must be destroyed. The easiest way to maintain the facade is to send the capital to war. If you acquire new land, congratulations, the "investment" paid off. If it doesn't, then the destruction of capital at least maintai…

War is good for business. It's the 34th rule of acquisition.

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Re: NASA investigation finds Boeing hindering Americans' return to moon

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Post by mcmcmc » Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 11:44 AM UTC

wonderwonder wrote: post #159

mcmcmc wrote: post #28

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Sure, let’s give the richest man on earth who spends more time trolling on Twitter than working more taxpayer dollars for his self enrichment

So in a thread about how abysmal and over budget the only competitor is, you have decided that we should cut off the most innovative space company in of the past 20 years and our governments sole proven launch provider because you don't like the owner on a personal level?

No, I think the government should not be continuing to rack up debt for a toy program that does nothing for the welfare of the average American. If Spacex is so successful and innovative surely they can survive without government funding. I’ve never met Elon so how would I dislike him on a personal level? I dislike how blatant he is about using his companies and political dark money to curry favor. I dislike that he has faced zero consequences for market manipulation and lying to investors and the SEC.

Re: NASA investigation finds Boeing hindering Americans' return to moon

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Post by mcmcmc » Sat, Aug 17, 2024, 11:48 AM UTC

dotnet00 wrote: post #109

mcmcmc wrote: post #51

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The whole thing is a boondoggle and running a deficit to redistribute more wealth to the top should disgust people. Your strawman is meaningless.

Where's the strawman? You're whining about giving money to SpaceX in exchange for asking SpaceX to build something to the specifications of the program. That's not redistributing wealth to the top, that's purchasing a service.

You literally made up a quote that I did not say to create a nonsensical argument. Taking taxpayer money and spending it on something that doesn’t benefit taxpayers, but does benefit people with equity in Spacex, is wealth redistribution. All fiscal policy is wealth redistribution when it comes down to it.