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Leaked OpenAI documents reveal aggressive tactics toward former employees

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Post by _jab »

tedivm wrote: post #6

If this really was a mistake the easiest way to deal with it would be to release people from their non disparagement agreements that were only signed by leaving employees under the duress of losing their vested equity. It's really easy to make people whole for this, so whether that happens or not is the difference between the apologies being real or just them just backpedaling because employees got upset. Edit: Looks…

It shouldn't take a Vox article to ensure employees basic security over their compensation. The fact that this provision existed at all is exceptionally anti-employee.

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Post by Der_Einzige »

fcarraldo wrote: post #368
Der_Einzige wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is malwarebytes a startup? They were a thing when I was a baby!

People on this site have been working in this industry longer than you. Some longer than you have been alive, it sounds like.

You take my statement far too literally. I thought it came out in the late 90's. Turns out, it was 2006. I was in middle school at the time.

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Post by dang »

loceng wrote: post #164
user_7832 wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wish there was some simple calculations that could be shown on how posts are ranked. For eg post A has x upvotes, y comments, is z minutes old and therefore rank 2. Post B has these values, while C is here. Hence this post went down the front page quickly. It's not that I don't trust the mods explicitly, it's just that showing such numbers (if they exist) would be helpful for transparency.

IMHO HN data should be transparent. The innovation on detecting patterns would be incredible, and in reality I think would be best to evolve into allowing user-decided algorithms that they personally subscribe to.

It's a common suggestion but I don't think it would work and have posted quite a few times about why: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu....

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Post by sschueller »

rehitman wrote: post #168

The company that fails in even a simple good faith gesture in their employee aggreement, claims it is the only one who can handle AGI while government creating regulation to lock out open source.

A company that was honest wouldn't lobby the government to lock out others.

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Post by ornornor »

ungreased0675 wrote: post #325
tedivm wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have worked for multiple startups (Malwarebytes, Vicarious, Rad AI, Explosion AI, Aptible, Kenna Security). Not once have I seen an exit agreement that stated they would steal back my vested equity if I didn't sign. This is definitely not "standard restrictions".

Anytime someone tried to get me to sign a terrible contract, they always said “This is just standard stuff.”

Same. And in the same breath they also added “this is never used anyway, it’s just the template”. But “no it can’t be removed from the contract”

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Post by optimalsolver »

zniturah wrote: post #323

Looking forward for a document leak about openai using YouTube data for training their models. When asked if they use it, Murali (CTO) told she doesn't know which makes you believe that for 99% they are using it.

*Murati

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Post by fisheuler »

kashyapc wrote: post #409

Great, if these documents are credible, this is exactly what I was implying[1] yesteday. Here, listen to Altman say how he is "genuinely embarrassed": "this is on me and one of the few times i've been genuinely embarrassed running openai; i did not know this was happening and i should have." The first thing the above conjures up is the other disgraced Sam (Bankman-Fried) saying "this is on me" when FTX went bust. I b…

smells like game of thrones.

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Post by cambaceres »

> this is on me and one of the few times i've been genuinely embarrassed running openai

This statement seems to suggest that feeling embarrassed by one's actions is a normal part of running a company. In reality, the expectation is that a CEO should strive to lead with integrity and foresight to avoid situations that lead to embarrassment.

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Post by neglesaks »

webdoodle wrote: post #189
neglesaks wrote: post #84

I'll make a prediction here: OpenAI will in the coming years turn out just as ruthless and socially damaging as Facebook did.

Don't forget about Reddit and Twitter. Although they like to call themselves social networks, they are really corporate psyop networks for hire.

Well put. I agree.
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