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Re: GPT-4o

#411
I recently subscribed to Perplexity Pro and prior to this release, was already strongly considering discontinuing ChatGPT Premium.

When I first subscribed to ChatGPT Premium late last year, the natural language understanding superiority was amazing. Now the benchmark advances, low latency voice chat, Sora, etc. are all really cool too.

But my work and day-to-day usage really rely on accurately sourced/cited information. I need a way to comb through an ungodly amount of medical/scientific literature to form/refine hypotheses. I want to figure out how to hard reset my car's navigation system without clicking through several SEO-optimized pages littered with ads. I need to quickly confirm scientific facts, some obscure, with citations and without hallucinations. From speaking with my friends in other industries (e.g. finance, law, construction engineering), this is their major use case too.

I really tried to use ChatGPT Premium's Bing powered search. I also tried several of the top rated GPTs - Scholar AI, Consensus, etc.. It was barely workable. It seems like with this update, the focus was elsewhere. Unless I specify explicitly in the prompt, it doesn't search the web and provide citations. Yeah, the benchmark performance and parameter counts keep impressively increasing, but how do I trust that those improvements are preventing hallucinations when nothing is cited?

I wonder if the business relationship between Microsoft and OpenAI is limiting their ability to really compete in AI driven search. Guessing Microsoft doesn't want to disrupt their multi-billion dollar search business. Maybe the same reason search within Gemini feels very lacking (I tried Gemini Advanced/Ultra too).

I have zero brand loyalty. If anybody has a better suggestion, I will switch immediately after testing.

Re: GPT-4o

#412
I wish they would match the TTS/real-time chat capabilities of the mobile client to the web client.

it's stupid having to pull a phone out in order to use the voice/chat-partner modes.

(yes I know there are browser plugins and equivalent to facilitate things like this but they suck, 1) the workflows are non-standard, 2) they don't really recreate the chat interface well)

Re: GPT-4o

#413
I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.

Re: GPT-4o

#414
post #19

Tiktoken added support for GPT-4o: https://github.com/openai/tiktoken/commit/9d01e5670ff50eb74c... It has an increased vocab size of 200k.

Does that imply they retrained the foundation model from scratch? I thought changing the tokenization was something you couldn't really retrofit to an existing model. I mean sure they might have initialized the weights from the prior GPT-4 model but it'd still require a lot of retraining.

Yeah and they say as much in the blog.

Re: GPT-4o

#416
post #115

The usual critics will quickly point out that LLMs like GPT-4o still have a lot of failure modes and suffer from issues that remain unresolved. They will point out that we're reaping diminishing returns from Transformers. They will question the absence of a "GPT-5" model. And so on -- blah, blah, blah, stochastic parrots, blah, blah, blah. Ignore the critics. Watch the demos. Play with it. This stuff feels magical .…

This is such a hot take, it should go in hot-takes.io LOL

Re: GPT-4o

#417

HOW ARE PEOPLE NOT MORE EXCITED, hes cutting off the AI mid sentence in these and its pausing to readjust in damn near realtime latency! WTF Thats a MAJOR step forward, what the hell is gpt5 going to look like. That realtime translation would be amazing as an option in say Skype or Teams, set each individuals native language and handle automated translation, shit tie it into ElevenLabs to replicate your voice as well…

Honestly I found it annoying that he HAD TO cut the AI off mid-sentence. These things just ramble on and on and on. If you could put emotion to it, it's as if they're uncomfortable with silence and just fill the space with nonsense.

Let's hope there's a future update where it can take video from both the front and rear cameras simultaneously so it can identify when I'm annoyed and stop talking (or excited, and share more).

Re: GPT-4o

#418
So much negativity. Is it perfect? No. Is there room for improvement? Definitely. I don't know how you can get so fucking jaded that a demo like this doesn't at least make you a little bit excited or happy or feel awestruck at what humans have been able to accomplish?

Re: GPT-4o

#420
I am still baffled at how I can not use a VOIP number to register, even if it accepts TXT/SMS. If I have a snappy new startup and we go all in VOIP, I guess we can not use (or pay to use) OpenAI?
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