Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

breakingdefense.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

411–420 of 439 posts

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#411

Post by kornhole »

racional wrote: post #405
kornhole wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree Ukraine never had a chance against the far superior Russian military. The reason the US and NATO did not officially send ground troops, although many of their people are on the ground, is that it would trigger full war between NATO and Russia which would go thermonuclear. If that ever happened, Russia's larger and more advanced nuclear arsenal (ballistic missiles) would give it an advantage. Their large land…

I agree Ukraine never had a chance against the far superior Russian military. A very weird thing to say, given Russia's humiliating defeat (in terms of the objectives it believed it would surely and painlessly achieve) in 2022.

[flagged]

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#412

Post by racional »

kornhole wrote: post #411
racional wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree Ukraine never had a chance against the far superior Russian military. A very weird thing to say, given Russia's humiliating defeat (in terms of the objectives it believed it would surely and painlessly achieve) in 2022.

[flagged]

No inside information is needed. It's entirely obvious and transparent what happened.

I suspect you are parroting whatever NATO media told you.

Yeah, yeah.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#413

Post by dragonwriter »

ethbr1 wrote: post #339
sandworm101 wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and no. Ammunition is important, but from a logistics standpoint it will be much less burdensome than the food/water/fuel that must be provided to men on the field. Even in a hot war, an infantry unit is not engaged in full combat 24/7. But it never stops eating.

But autonomy explicitly decreases the human logistics burden too, by multiplying the effectiveness of each human. Where in Civil War times you would need to clothe, feed, camp 100 people, now you have that firepower in a single soldier's weapon. And when you remove the need for even a single human, you also remove their logistics footprint.

> Where in Civil War times you would need to clothe, feed, camp 100 people, now you have that firepower in a single soldier's weapon.

Which doesn't reduce the number of troops you need against a given foe with peer equipment, it just increases the durable equipment and consumables per soldier

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#414

Post by qarl »

coffeeindex wrote: post #410
qarl wrote: post #399

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah - so it was the FT editor that equated Palmer Luckey to Oppenheimer.

Is he not just saying that Palmer Luckey’s “idea” isn’t his own — Oppenheimer for example had it before? That’s hardly equating them

The title of the article is "How Silicon Valley’s ‘Oppenheimer’ found lucrative trade in AI weapons".

The implication is that Palmer is Silcon Valley's Oppenheimer.

EDIT: Although, now that you mention it, Oppenheimer is in quotes. I guess it's possible that the FT is being sarcastic.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#415

Post by AndrewKemendo »

erhserhdfd wrote: post #404
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #305

Go find any GUR operator in Ukraine and ask them what they think of Anduril Their proprietary controller doesn’t work with TAK or qgc and they keep everything closed with no interop with the actual FPV or other systems in use daily Unusable in actual war

That's fascinating. Where would you direct someone that is interesting in learning more about these items? Any good sources or websites to read?

Build a product they want to use and they will find you

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#416

Post by fennecbutt »

Animats wrote: post #68

It's impressive how much hardware they've been able to develop. Their "Fury", which they acquired from Blue Force, is "a single engine business jet with no cabin." It was originally intended as a target drone, something for fighter pilots to practice against. Anduril repurposed it as an autonomous weapons system. They do mean autonomous. Their slogan is "Autonomy for Every Mission". We're seeing the future of warfare…

When you think about it, this is one area that Russia can't really compete in as well as western countries. Autonomous weapons will be the decider on any future battlefield minus nuclear weapons.

But that's always been the pain of nukes "let me do what I want or I'll nuke you" has become a catch phrase.

If China invaded Taiwan tomorrow and said "if you stop us we will use nuclear weapons"...like what can you say to that? It's very easy to bet against mutually assured destruction because that takes two parties and both have to accept said destruction...I don't think many Western countries would go "Okay fine, you do what you gotta do and we'll send some right back to you"...I think we'd probably just let China take Taiwan.

The only thing that would trigger a western nuclear response would be if we couldn't evacuate semi technology and assets out before invasion, I think US for sure would definitely lay hands on the big red button if that was in play.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#417

Post by fennecbutt »

kornhole wrote: post #411
racional wrote: post #405

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree Ukraine never had a chance against the far superior Russian military. A very weird thing to say, given Russia's humiliating defeat (in terms of the objectives it believed it would surely and painlessly achieve) in 2022.

[flagged]

The only thing the Russian military is superior in is numbers, and it's very clear that they care very little for the men who fight and die for their country, even less so than America discarding their veterans; at least America's army doesn't send them in to be actual cannon fodder.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#418

Post by fennecbutt »

kornhole wrote: post #397
blue_pants wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are not credible sources. From the theinteldrop link: "several sources within the Russian military and defense industry told the newspaper Izvestia on Saturday" From the sputnikglobe link: "Moscow-based military expert Alexey Leonkov told Sputnik"

What makes these sources not credible in your mind? I have not observed them reporting anything incorrectly. They are citing military experts who know the technical capabilities of these weapons and defense systems. If you want to refute what they say, show how a slower Patriot missile could target and intercept a much faster mach 5 missile. It is basic physics without getting deeply into rocket science.

"Military experts" != engineers and physicists (usually).

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#419

Post by whateveracct »

boshalfoshal wrote: post #380
whateveracct wrote: post #375

Anduril is a Haskell shop fwiw

Maybe in certain parts it is. Last time I spoke with them they were transferring some of their on-robot stacks from C++ to Rust.

Yeah it's not the whole company but they do recruit Haskellers often for an electronic warfare team.

Re: Air Force picks Anduril, General Atomics to develop unmanned fighter jets

#420

Post by fennecbutt »

alluro2 wrote: post #27
bugbuddy wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of airframe materials will they need for 9Gs? That sounds like too much for even aerospace Titanium.

9G shouldn't be a problem at all, from a material standpoint. Missiles go to 100G, and F1 engine pistons withstand 8.600G ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force ).

Ah the list sorts alphabetically and not numerically, looks like.
Post reply on HN