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Why are most sofas so bad?

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Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by secretsatan »

The article goes on about the quality of manufacturing, which is very fair, but something that bugs me, and it seems to apply to cheap sofas as well as very expensive ones.

Why are so many of them just plain uncomfortable? I'm looking for one I want right now, and I have to go around a furniture shop and try each out and I reckon, maybe 1/4 of them are suitable for a place you might enjoy sitting in.

The high end furniture shops seem to be the worst, i've seen 4 figure sofas that are the most uncomfortable thing I ever tried. Champions of form over function.

My last favourite sofa was around 2500 I guess, lasted 10 years, was excellently comfortable, but was unfortunately the wrong shape for my new place, I have not found anything anywhere near as good as that one.

It may be my height, much furniture seems a little off to me, and it is hard in general for me to find things I'm happy with.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by petepete »

Share6323 wrote: post #3

Are any sofa manufacturers out there that still produce good quality for around $1000, preferably from Europe ?

I bought two sofas from Habbio last year and am really happy with the purchase.

They're made from recycled materials and are vegan. So far they've been great, and they have a 15 year guarantee, but time will tell.

https://habbio.co.uk/

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by fabioborellini »

etrautmann wrote: post #112
sircastor wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of this is attached to a puritan-based work ethic. If something isn't hard to do, or require a lot of time and energy then it's not of high quality or worth having. It's probably a signaling thing too...

Possibly, though some products like the PAX just truly don’t move well even once.

Yes, Pax is only sturdy when mounted to a wall. It is very unstable by itself. But isn’t it meant to be permanently installed? I’m expecting to leave my Pax when I’m moving out.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by swatcoder »

secretsatan wrote: post #411

The article goes on about the quality of manufacturing, which is very fair, but something that bugs me, and it seems to apply to cheap sofas as well as very expensive ones. Why are so many of them just plain uncomfortable? I'm looking for one I want right now, and I have to go around a furniture shop and try each out and I reckon, maybe 1/4 of them are suitable for a place you might enjoy sitting in. The high end fur…

> Champions of form over function.

Sofas have many different functions.

The plush sofa you sink deep into for TV at the end of the day has a different function than the firm sofa your dinner guests sit on the front of while sipping cocktails, etc

Many of the sofas you were looking at were probably designed for a different function than you were seeking.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by Symbiote »

teleforce wrote: post #354
Wohlf wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Particleboard is absolutely useless, MDF is mostly useless except using as a guaranteed flat surface on top of something to support it, hardboard is pretty useful in certain applications though. OSB is great and extremely affordable as sheathing, and there's a massive variety of plywood that's great for their respective purposes - from cheap rough sheathing, mid-grade for shop projects and filling large gaps in furni…

Avoid particleboard like a plague if you can afford it, appparently most of IKEA products now made of these since they are widely being used in dirt cheap furniture construction. They melt like ice once in contact with water. Recently, just had to chopped off all four legs of a bookshelf then replaced them with metal legs. The bookshelf legs somehow got damaged in contact with accumulated air-cond water droplets.

Ikea has two or three price points for each product. The cheapest will be made from chipboard or even cardboard. The most expensive varies, it might be pine or even something better.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by TylerE »

BizarroLand wrote: post #400
TylerE wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s just lazy lying with a map. They’re just literally mapping population. If you controlled for population the signal disappears utterly. Look familiar? https://xkcd.com/1138/

Do you have a link to an alternative site with information about bedbug density made since 2018 or so? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that in lieu of additional information this is what I have to work with, so I will need a better source of data before I change my mind.

Just read the legend. It’s raw numbers, not per capita. It’s not even worth taking seriously.

It’s not showing rates at all, just raw case numbers.

NY has a lot. Alaska and Wyoming have almost none. Things happen where people live. News at 11.

That site is also obvious affiliate spam SEO bait.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by cheeseface »

anon-sre-srm wrote: post #393

Most people buy IKEA sawdust or are low information consumers, and the market responds accordingly. As such, people don't buy fine furniture or understand how to discern quality in a specific durable good.

The funny thing is that IKEA sawdust will most likely last longer than some more expensive ”drop-shipping luxury brand” described in the article.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by gruez »

cdchn wrote: post #401
gruez wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The buying up of precious housing as investments by non-residents should mostly be banned, starting with institutional and overseas investors. What's the issue with them buying houses as investments, as long as they're being rented out? If that's the case, their net effect on the housing supply is zero. >maybe also imprisoned. I find it extremely disturbing that people are effectively demanding for bill of attainder…

>What's the issue with them buying houses as investments, as long as they're being rented out? Because it prevents people from owning and now have to be permanent renters because of somebody's greedy rent seeking behavior.

Sounds like the actual problem is that landlords can engage in "greedy rent seeking behavior" at all. Allowing people to opt out, but only if they can afford a 6 figure downpayment and keep 7 figure amounts of their wealth parked in a single non-productive asset that's highly correlated with their job prospects is an imperfect solution to say the least. Everyone deserve protections from "greedy rent seeking behavior", not just the people who are in a position to buy.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by globular-toast »

The funny thing is someone told me this in an IRC channel about 20 years ago, a full decade before I'd even be in a position to buy my own sofa. Can't remember which channel it was, certainly wasn't a sofa-related channel, probably Linux related. I've never forgotten it for some reason.

Re: Why are most sofas so bad?

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Post by illiac786 »

askvictor wrote: post #178
illiac786 wrote: post #101

The cookie popup of this site is some dark design to behold, I have to say. You need to disable every single "goal" one by one - once you have figured out this is the least worst option. You can otherwise disable the 1400 partners one by one. This is completely illegal in Europe and I think it's illegal to serve this UI to an EU IP, even for non-EU websites. Anyway, who cares, it's almost funny what lengths they go t…

Didn't notice a thing (using ublock origin with easylist->cookie notices)

I was using Safari iOS with AdGuard
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