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New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by quenix »

bmitc wrote: post #407
numbers wrote: post #355

I was recently buying a Dell laptop for my sister and it boggles my mind how most other companies (maybe Framework is an except) still have dozens or even 100s of SKUs for consumer laptops. I didn't enjoy the process of looking through dozens of various lines that Dell has and then other companies like Lenovo and HP earlier in the process, just to find a "mid-range usable computer with a decent screen". If you didn't…

Have you ever tried to trade in an Apple prdoduct? They ask you to enter the serial number and then bizarrely ask you to indentify to device. You basically have to refer to MacRumors to get it right. Apple has the same problem, if not worse. Dell has XPS 13, XPS 15, and XPS 17 and now the plus designation. It's pretty easy.

I've traded in multiple and only ever had to enter the serial number.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by croes »

numbers wrote: post #355

I was recently buying a Dell laptop for my sister and it boggles my mind how most other companies (maybe Framework is an except) still have dozens or even 100s of SKUs for consumer laptops. I didn't enjoy the process of looking through dozens of various lines that Dell has and then other companies like Lenovo and HP earlier in the process, just to find a "mid-range usable computer with a decent screen". If you didn't…

It pretty easy with no competitor for the MacOS segment.

All those numbers try to hide that they basically sell all the same.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by MBCook »

izacus wrote: post #389
Solvency wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why has it been so utterly impossible for a single Windows laptop manufacturer to match the build quality? Just matching the body itself would at last be SOMETHING.

Because you're not looking hard enough.

So post some links.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by seszett »

opan wrote: post #299
The5thElephant wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious what you can do in Pop_OS that makes MacOS software "meh" in comparison? I have a few friends who are Linux devotees yet watching them do stuff seems so tedious and slow in comparison to my workflows. Like I get that you can setup all sorts of keyboard shortcuts and stuff to do whatever you want, but that's also possible in MacOS, so what is it exactly that you can do better/faster in Pop_OS? For most of…

I've got a M2 Max MBP I'm not using yet because there's no way to get sshfs/fuse working with free as in freedom software on macOS, and Asahi doesn't support external displays yet, so it can't take over for my ThinkPad T440p with either OS. Package management and package availability is much worse in the macOS world. Nix is weirdly broken, at least the ARM macOS packages. Homebrew is okay but not very good, similar t…

> Asahi doesn't support external displays yet,

It does if your machine has a hdmi port. It just doesn't support displays connected to the USB-C ports.

To comment on the topic, for me the window management on macOS is a deal-breaker, I just never manage to make it do what I want without having to constantly fiddle with the windows to put them where I need them, and focus just works on a weird way.

I tried amethyst (I think) and although it improves things, it really looks like a hack, a constant battle against the native behaviour.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

bmitc wrote: post #407
numbers wrote: post #355

I was recently buying a Dell laptop for my sister and it boggles my mind how most other companies (maybe Framework is an except) still have dozens or even 100s of SKUs for consumer laptops. I didn't enjoy the process of looking through dozens of various lines that Dell has and then other companies like Lenovo and HP earlier in the process, just to find a "mid-range usable computer with a decent screen". If you didn't…

Have you ever tried to trade in an Apple prdoduct? They ask you to enter the serial number and then bizarrely ask you to indentify to device. You basically have to refer to MacRumors to get it right. Apple has the same problem, if not worse. Dell has XPS 13, XPS 15, and XPS 17 and now the plus designation. It's pretty easy.

Huh, the xps itself has 36 SKUs in Germany. Then there’s Latitude, Inspiron, Vostro, Alienware, Gaming Pro, Mobile Precision Workstation…

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by FredPret »

sys_64738 wrote: post #76
Keyframe wrote: post #63

Outside of pricing, why would one buy Air vs Pro these days? I've had OG Air back in the day and tapered form factor was great. I recently was in an Apple store and looked at pro and airs.. they felt same, and also air seemed heavy (compared to ye olde tapered one). Now with Pro at 14" and Air pushing to 15".. why?

Air has no fan which means no moving parts and no noise.

I have an M1 Pro that apparently has a fan - I've never seen or heard any evidence that it does actually exist

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by pbnjeh »

Will these, like previous models, have varying SSD performance depending upon how many chips are populated resulting in varying parallelization of SSD operations?

If so, knowing those configurations would be useful. I have a friend I recently told to wait for the M3 models (and for reviews of same and for the initial bugs, etc. shakeout to subside).

I'm also wondering about the reported/speculated internal bus width and bandwidth differences between the M2 and M3. Supposedly, the M3 is/would be a bit narrower, hopefully making up the resulting impact upon performance through other improvements.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by makeitdouble »

numbers wrote: post #355

I was recently buying a Dell laptop for my sister and it boggles my mind how most other companies (maybe Framework is an except) still have dozens or even 100s of SKUs for consumer laptops. I didn't enjoy the process of looking through dozens of various lines that Dell has and then other companies like Lenovo and HP earlier in the process, just to find a "mid-range usable computer with a decent screen". If you didn't…

> Apple continues to simplify the laptop naming scheme, we're at a point where it's simply: > Air OR Pro > Small screen OR big screen

The weird part of that argument to me: to arrive to that point you've already made a ton of choices that need to be educated.

You decided on the form factor: you don't want a convertible (neither a Surface like tablet + keyboard, nor something like a Yoga).

You decided to forgo touch.

You decided you don't really want to game. You also evaluated you don't need anything Windows or x86 only.

Then sure there's about 10 models. But at that point is it much complicated than say, choose from the DELL XPS line ?

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Post by MBCook »

samuell wrote: post #156
ketzo wrote: post #49

The degree to which Apple has kinda just “won” laptops is nuts to me. $999 for an 13-inch M2 Air is just bonkers. You can easily pay $1500, even $2000 for Windows laptops that are hotter, heavier, AND slower.

With what RAM? ... and what weight? For $1700 you can get a sub-1kg Asus ExpertBook B9 with 32GB RAM and a 2TB disk and a decent 12th 12 core Gen Intel CPU. https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ExpertBook-i7-1255U-Military-B94... Not saying it is better in all respects, but definitely in some, meaning there are definitely alternatives.

Well the two reviews give it 1 star as a quality control dumpster fire.

And the screen is 1080p from 15 years ago.

No thanks.

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