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Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by sunshine_reggae »

pachico wrote: post #289

I never broke a phone, not even scratched the screen but I feel force to buy a new one every 3 years because they become obsolete (I guess apps require more and more memory to the point I cannot have two open at the same time, which kills my ability to pay online). I bought a Framework laptop for the same reason and I successfully managed to upgrade it, not repair it! Is there a phone that allows me to upgrade over t…

My solution is to get rid of all but 1-2 apps. It's a truly liberating feeling.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by buzzy_hacker »

mrweasel wrote: post #394
llamaInSouth wrote: post #341

they probably should have went with 9.5 in case something better comes along

That's actually a pretty big issue for surveys where I live. I live in a part of Denmark that is notorious for never using the full scale in surveys, to the point where it screws with data analysis. Basically we'll never use 5 in a 1 - 5 score, or 10 in a 1 - 10, because what if something better came along? I've been to training seminars and done surveys about workplace issues where we've been specifically instructed…

I find it amusing that you live somewhere known for such an obscure tendency.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by mcv »

Moldoteck wrote: post #407
mcv wrote: post #402

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That is an excellent point. Ports are always vulnerable. On the other hand, it seems that wireless charging is also the reason why many modern phones have these stupidly fragile glass backs. So your whole phone gets more vulnerable.

I don't buy it. Pixel 5 did have a kinda metallic-plastiky back (sort of plastic around wireless c, but it was impossible to spot the area with naked eye), it looked nice. You also can see the zenfone 10, it's some sort of plastic, but super nice to the touch. Having glass back is not mandatory for a wireless charging phone, I think companies do this to make more profit on repairs longterm

Maybe. I just miss the hard rubberized steel from my Motorola Milestone.

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Post by toastal »

projektfu wrote: post #397
sunshine_reggae wrote: post #389

No headphone jack => No Fairphone. I'm never going to put my brain between 2 radiation emitters. And that's just 1 reason why I'll always use cable.

USB-C to 3.5mm dongles are pretty inexpensive and unobtrusive. I use one to keep my old tried-and-true noise-cancelling headphones working.

Choosing between charging or audio shouldn’t have to be a choose when you consider it’s common courtesy to not spew your noise pollution into your public surroundings. Dongles big enough for passthru charging are too bulky to fit in a pocket comfortably. Now you also have another wire/hub you have to go out and buy & might easily lose or misplace, for what exactly? It sure ain’t to waterproofing or a significant cost-cutting measure. It can let a device be ever so much thinner but does being < 3.5 mm really benefit the user. I bet the manufactures love the revenue of the discount bundled wireless earbuds tho—whose audio is usually not good but labeled under subjective to all but the nerds looking at frequency-response graphs. And when those irrepairable buds can no longer hold a charge after a couple of months, I bet they like banking on users coming back to purchase that same ewaste again from them.

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Post by dakial1 »

maqnius wrote: post #379
sspiff wrote: post #350

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Have you tried the camera? How did you find it? I honestly don't care much about processor speed, if it can run a browser, messaging and banking apps I'm fine. But I need to be able to take family pictures which are good enough quality for occasional full page prints. I've always been disappointed with these kind of niche devices in the past, where the cameras were barely of the level of 2 year old sub-$200 phones, e…

My gf has a fairphone 5 and I guess you will be disappointed. The pictures are really not stunning. She had a huawei p20 pro (from 2018) and it definitely took better pictures.

But is it the hardware though? All the new flagship phones are using software/AI to enhance the photos well above the hardware raw, so I imagine that you might be able to fix this with a better camera app.

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

globular-toast wrote: post #328
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #249

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Travel, among other things. Wear on the phone side of the port should be considered too.

I travel with cables every day. The only cables I've ever broken were due to some accident like tripping over it or something. I'm talking like 1 or 2 in my entire life. I have never considered cables to be a consumable part. How on earth does someone get through one a year? Are you using it as a rope? Copper isn't cheap but should last decades, not one lousy year.

Cheap eBay cables seem to be extremely fragile inside, plastic splits often too. Weather conditions, general treatment and lifestyle will all have an impact.

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Post by crashmat »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #279
cthulhus_crocs wrote: post #278

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1. waste money on good adapter when jack worked fine 2. connect it to the end of my headphones and leave it there 3. remove it so I can connect same headphones to laptop 4. lose adapter repeat

It doesn't work anymore because no one cares about audio jacks on their devices, so no manufacturer puts them in. Apple may have started it, but every other manufacturer eventually followed as not enough people complained. Doesn't your laptop have USB ports?

It might not have usb-c.

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Post by crashmat »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #258
toastercat wrote: post #131

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1. Many USB-C jack adapters are poor quality. 2. USB-C adapters are one extra thing to carry around and easy to lose or forget, unless you just never unplug it, which is cumbersome 3. Many people who were born before the year 2005 (me included) have wired headphones that they prefer and have used for years that still work fine and have the sound quality and comfort that fit our needs. 4. Outside of the smart phone wo…

1. buy a good adapter 2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there 3. do the above 4. buy a good adapter 5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the opt…

I would say less people have moved to wireless for at-home headphones, with many pairs of headphones intended for use with a pc still being wired, so I dont think 'everyone else' has moved 'on' to wireless in all contexts.

Re: Fairphone 5: Keeping it 10/10?

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Post by toastercat »

scheeseman486 wrote: post #258
toastercat wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Many USB-C jack adapters are poor quality. 2. USB-C adapters are one extra thing to carry around and easy to lose or forget, unless you just never unplug it, which is cumbersome 3. Many people who were born before the year 2005 (me included) have wired headphones that they prefer and have used for years that still work fine and have the sound quality and comfort that fit our needs. 4. Outside of the smart phone wo…

1. buy a good adapter 2. connect it to the end of your headphones and leave it there 3. do the above 4. buy a good adapter 5. don't use bluetooth and buy an adapter e: I was a little flippant. Point being: Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either. You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the opt…

I have an adapter. I still would rather have a phone with an audio jack built-in.

> Time has marched on, TVs don't have RCA jacks either.

Bad comparison. 3.5mm audio is still standard almost everywhere else for audio. RCA jacks are not. Your laptop, speakers, Steam Deck, monitor, and yeah probably your TV still have an audio jack.

> You are an enthusiast and that's fine, I am too, but everyone else has moved on to bluetooth and wifi-enabled speakers and TVs. I'm happy to simply have the option, it's not like half-decent dongles are particularly expensive.

I'm not an enthusiast; I, like probably 90% of the US population, have wired 3.5mm headphones in my home that I like to use with my electronics. It's bonkers to me that people are calling wired headphones obsolete; this makes me think that they either throw away all of their electronics when something new comes out, or are under eighteen years old and have never owned a pair.

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Post by crashmat »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #73
q0uaur wrote: post #61

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not the other guy, but... any advice how to find a decent usb-c to audio jack dongle? i've ordered a cheap one and it's absolutely unusable, horrible sound quality and constant noticeable static. not feeling like gambling on another one.

Apple's USB-C to headphone dongle works on Android, I believe, and is regularly reviewed to have the same audio quality as comparably expensive DACs. It's $9

It does sound good, but not very durable. I got one recently because i got a phone without a headphone jack foolishly thinking I'd just buy an adapter and it broke the second time I used it, just making clicking noises.
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