The main thing I really dislike is the lack of buttons and dials. It looks to be just a single touchscreen in the center for everything .
Even if I loved everything else about Tesla vehicles, the extreme dependency on a touchscreen is a dealbreaker.
Cybertruck Launch
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#412Earlier quoted context omitted.
Any ideas for how to redesign these? The thought is compelling. I’m thinking about it and even with EVs you’d still want four wheels, want to put the battery flat on the bottom for various reasons. So the base seems like it’s four wheels with a flat platform. Building space for 1-6 people on top thought and I seem to arrive at the same designs that already exist. Thoughts?
there were plenty of 'crazy idea' cars prototypes. The reality is the current designs (tear shaped, front engine, forward facing seats with belts) are result of slow incremental perfections. Safety, fuel efficiency being two biggest drivers (pun intended!). The biggest external factor being the infrastructure (you might have the greatest idea for next personal transportation vehicle) but if it doesnt use roads its pr…
Not all ICE cars have the engine in the front, even.
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#413I happen to think that Musk is a loon, but I am rooting for the success of the truck, because, in the US, truck buyers are a super conservative bunch, and if you win them over, then the EV transition really kicks in. Truck buyers cannot afford machines that get between them and earning their livelihood. The question for me is whether this, and the Ford F150 Lightning, are poser trucks, or genuine work trucks. Its win…
> Truck buyers cannot afford machines that get between them and earning their livelihood.
In the city, anyway, most truck owners only use their trucks for commuting and rarely, if ever, actually use it as a truck. They are not relying on their trucks to earn a livelihood any more than car owners are.
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#414We welcome any and all creative attempts to convince the public to use evs, which are massively piling up on dealer lots.
I checked the market a month ago, and didn't find anything acceptable. The dealbreakers were: insufficient headroom, insufficient range for winter road trips in the US midwest (heat on, 2-3 hour trip duration, de minimis charging infrastructure), built-in internet connections, mandatory subscriptions, and no CarPlay.
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#415Earlier quoted context omitted.
By "themselves" do you mean Elon Musk? I wasn't under the impression that Tesla was much of a collaborative environment. Musk bans Kanban and Toyota Production System principles after all.
Tesla has its own principles, and collaboration is a big part of them. One reason so many engineers apply to work at Tesla is that they get to see their ideas implemented quickly and without excessive bureaucracy.
Cybertruck was announced in 2019, and production was pushed back several times in '21, '22 and finally '23. Sounds pretty bureaucratic to me.
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#416Sure looks dangerous for pedestrians
Personally, I think the "electric SUVs are bad for pedestrians" is just there to replace "SUVs are bad for the environment". Basically, this isn't a real argument, just a vibes thing, where big trucks are conservative coded and smaller cars are liberal-coded. In the grand scheme of things the difference in MPG of an SUV vs. a sedan is minimal when it comes to climate change, and the difference in pedestrian danger fr…
In terms of absolute numbers, pedestrian deaths are low (but increased a lot in the past 15 years), but in terms of percentage, trucks/SUVs have 25-45% increased fatality rate. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tall-trucks-suvs-are-45-dea...
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#417Earlier quoted context omitted.
> practical US trucks would be succesful internationally if that was the case.
That would be true only if the use cases were the same. The US is very different in terms of both geography and infrastructure than most of the developed world.
Seriously?
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#418Is this vehicle even street legal? no crumple zones?
From Isaacson's recent biography:
> At one point, Isaacson describes Musk becoming enraged when, working on the Tesla Model S, he finds a government-mandated warning about child airbag safety on the passenger-side visor. “Get rid of them,” he demands. “People aren’t stupid. These stickers are stupid.” Tesla faces recall notices because of the change, Isaacson reports, but Musk “didn’t back down.”
This company and the person leading it doesn't care about safety, and likely even about rule of law.
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#419I've been seeing a bunch of them in Bay Area, I thought it was already launched and started deliveries. In person, it looks like something out of a movie set.
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#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
The shoe-shaped things are that way because of crumple areas and pedestrian safety requirements (if the car hits a pedestrian, the bonnet is supposed to deform in order to minimize injuries). Contrast that to the Cybertruck, which... > ...has received criticism from automotive safety groups, including the Australasian New Car Assessment Program and the Euro NCAP, for not conforming to standards for pedestrian and cyc…
Are any mid or large sized American pickups sold new in Europe? All I can find is the Ford Ranger.
Would you consider a Dodge Ram 3500 large? Then yes. Although not via Dodge but smaller companies importing them. Not sure if that can circumvent the EU laws somehow.