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Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by redblacktree »

all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

I like to use it for one-off scripts. For example, I downloaded a bunch of bank statements the other day, and they had a format something like, "Statement-May-1-2023.pdf" and I asked GPT for a powershell script to convert that to "2023-05-01-BankName-Statement.pdf"

It saved a bunch of manual work on a throwaway script. In the past, I might have done something in Python, since I'm more familiar with it than powershell. Or, I'd say, "well, it's only 20 files. I'll just do it manually." The GPT script worked on the first try, and I just threw it away at the end.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by nearbuy »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #403
rekttrader wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can... fortunately I’m a principle @ my firm... the engineers I would have needed to hire might have been preemptively replaced. My use case is a bunch of adhoc data analysis.

So basically, you are happy to use AI because it benefits you and you are also happy training it to replace other people since you will not be the one replaced.

We don't have to be happy about it, but we can't stop this new technology any more than we could stop the invention of the steam engine or the printing press. Technology always displaces jobs; that's largely the point of inventing it. By reducing the human labour required to produce something, it allows us to produce more using fewer resources and frees up the labour to go work on something else. This is why we went from 96% of people needing to work in agriculture to 4%.

I might lose my job over this at some point in the future, so yeah, I'm worried about my personal well-being. But you can't put the genie back in the bottle and avoiding use of ChatGPT today isn't going to help.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by charlesischuck »

all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

Visual design work, coding, messaging, strategy, and law consulting.

Using it for basically every component of my startup.

Image generation and image interpretation means I may never hire a designer.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by paulddraper »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #403
rekttrader wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can... fortunately I’m a principle @ my firm... the engineers I would have needed to hire might have been preemptively replaced. My use case is a bunch of adhoc data analysis.

So basically, you are happy to use AI because it benefits you and you are also happy training it to replace other people since you will not be the one replaced.

Are you new to businesses?

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by gwd »

all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

GPT-4 is quite capable of writing function-length sections of code based only on descriptions. Either in a context where you're not sure what the a good approach is (for myself, when writing Javascript for example), or when you know what needs to be done but it's just somewhat tedious.

Here's a session from me working on a side project yesterday:

https://chat.openai.com/share/a6928c16-1c18-4c08-ae02-82538d...

The most impressive thing I think starts in the middle:

* I paste in some SQL tables and the golang structrues I wanted stuff to go into, and described in words what I wanted; and it generated a multi-level query with several joins, and then some post-processing in golang to put it into the form I'd asked for.

* I say, "if you do X, you can use slices instead of a map", and it rewrites the post-processing to use slices instead of a map

* I say, "Can you rewrite the query in goqu, using these constants?" and it does.

I didn't take a record of it, but a few months ago I was doing some data analysis, and I pasted in a quite complex SQL query I'd written a year earlier (the last time I was doing this analysis), and said "Can you modify it to group all rows less than 1% of the total into a single row labelled 'Other'?" And the resulting query worked out of the box.

It's basically like having a coding minion.

Once there's a better interface for accessing and modifying your local files / buffers, I'm sure it will become even more useful.

EDIT: Oh, and Monday I asked, "This query is super slow; can you think of a way to make it faster?" And it said, "Query looks fine; do you have indexes on X Y and Z columns of the various tables?" I said, "No; can you write me SQL to add those indexes?" Then ran the SQL to create indexes, and the query went from taking >10 minutes to taking 2 seconds.

(As you can tell, I'm neither a web dev nor a database dev...)

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by ZephyrBlu »

rekttrader wrote: post #375
vouaobrasil wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think the next step may be that it actually replaces you as a programmer?

It can... fortunately I’m a principle @ my firm... the engineers I would have needed to hire might have been preemptively replaced. My use case is a bunch of adhoc data analysis.

This is kind of interesting because the primary point of having eng/DS for data analysis in my mind is them being domain experts on the data. If you can perform adhoc analysis without any further domain knowledge, how much value would those hires have brought even disregarding ChatGPT?

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by ed »

InvisGhost wrote: post #396
ed wrote: post #350

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Also curious how you use it! Maybe it's something I can add to robocoder.app

Seems like a cool thing, I'm definitely interested as my work provides us with an API key to use. However I can't find anywhere that lists all the functionality offered. Maybe I'm missing something? It might be premature to launch the app before listing what it does.

rad! this is more like a beta i'm sending to friends but all really good points! feel free to hardcode the response from `/validate-license-key` :)

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by Balgair »

all2 wrote: post #390

I'd be curious to hear about the workflows people have come up with using ChatGPT. I'm still in the realm of "I don't know how to do this" or "I forgot the exact incantation to that" or "is the an X that does Y in framework Z?"

I can share one set that we have.

Basically, we use AI to do a lot of formatting for our manuals. It's most useful with the backend XML markups, not WYSIWYG editors.

So, we take the inputs from engineers and other stakeholders, essentially in email formats. Then we pass it through prompts that we've been working on for a while. Then it'll output working XML that we can use with a tad bit of clean-up (though that's been decreasing).

It's a lot more complicated than just that, of course, but that's the basics.

Also, it's been really nice to see these chat based AIs helping others code. Some of the manuals team is essentially illiterate when it comes to code. This time last year, they were at best able to use excel. Now, with the AIs, they're writing Python code of moderate complexity to do tasks for themselves and the team. None of it is by any means 'good' coding, it's total hacks. But it's really nice to see them come up to speed and get things done. To see the magic of coding manifest itself in, for example, 50 year old copy editors that never thought they were smart enough. The hand-holding nature of these AIs is just what they needed to make the jump.

Re: Major outages across ChatGPT and API

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Post by cstever »

rekttrader wrote: post #375
vouaobrasil wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think the next step may be that it actually replaces you as a programmer?

It can... fortunately I’m a principle @ my firm... the engineers I would have needed to hire might have been preemptively replaced. My use case is a bunch of adhoc data analysis.

If junior engineers are replaced by AI, who will be the Principles @ your firm in 20 years?
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