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I just subscribe to YouTube premium to support my favorite application out there. I learn so much from the people who spend hours and hours making videos every month that I am more than happy to pay a measly $13 or whatever it is every month to YouTube.
Also you have more control over where the money goes with Patreon, and they’re far better corporate citizens than google.
This is interesting, I’ve been trying to figure out the best solution for handling blackout rules for sports apps. You pay full price but they specifically block anything in your market which is absolutely ridiculous. Yes, you can slap an antenna on the back and view low resolution local stations assuming you’re picking up a decent signal. Haven’t found the most elegant way. Probably the path of least resistance is g…
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Not to mention that no one has the right to force me to consume information I do not want to consume. If you voluntarily choose to serve me some content, and I choose to ignore parts of it, who the frak are you to criticize me. You don't get to choose on my behalf what content I consume.
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Why? This isn't the 90s any more. You shouldn't use your employer's systems for anything other than work.
Hah, remember how Amazon invented "Cyber-Monday"? They claim the Monday after Thanksgiving when people go back to work it'll be their first encounter with Internet-connected computers after the Thanksgiving vacation, and it's the time where they'll be most busy shopping for Christmas presents...
I just subscribe to YouTube premium to support my favorite application out there. I learn so much from the people who spend hours and hours making videos every month that I am more than happy to pay a measly $13 or whatever it is every month to YouTube.
If you continue to give Google money you'll continue to get things like AMP, Manifest V3, Web "Integrity", and whatever else they think up to track you across the web. They're an ad company. They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content producers.
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I'm giving them money to view fewer ads. Isn't this an inherently "anti-ad" consumer standpoint? I am telling YT/Google that I as a consumer am willing to pay money to not see ads. Am I not telling them with my wallet to develop other ad-free solutions that I will pay them and the content creators money for? > They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content p…
Google keeps tracking your behavior for advertising purposes. This defeats completely any reason to give them money.
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I'm giving them money to view fewer ads. Isn't this an inherently "anti-ad" consumer standpoint? I am telling YT/Google that I as a consumer am willing to pay money to not see ads. Am I not telling them with my wallet to develop other ad-free solutions that I will pay them and the content creators money for? > They pay the creators per impression even if you block the ads. Blocking ads harms Google, not the content p…
You're giving them money because they're serving you ads in the first place. I appreciate advertising money pays the salaries of people in such companies, but there are other less intrusive ways. Since I've grown up with the evolution of internet advertising, my brain is wired to just ignore it. I can't saying I've knowingly be influence by any form of internet advertising, ever. A better solution for all concerned w…
Oh, that's OK, unknowing influence will do.
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> Adblocking Google is morally right. All ads should be blocked. I do not consume ads, and am not interested in paying a ransom to hide them.
If you don't consume ads, please do not use any ad-supported service, that's the easiest thing to do.
Ad supporters talk like blocking ads is literal theft, which is absolutely laughable. It's further away from theft than piracy, which is also in no way literal theft.
If I'm watching traditional non-demand television, and I go to the bathroom or change the channel during an ad, am I stealing from the network or the show? Hell no, that's ridiculous.
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I understand the sentiment, but the creators actually only got peanuts (most don't even see any money) out of your $13 while the rest go to Google. You are paying Google for youtube, and Google pay (some) content creators with a tiny fraction of your subscription money.
Do you have numbers to back your claim? Afaik From ad revenue channels get 55%. They also get money from premium subscribers depending on how much time they spent on channel. I wouldn't call it peanuts.
They say they pay out 55% of ad revenue per video and 55% of subscription revenue.
Assuming 10% of video creators have successfully set up monetization (I made up that number), then they are only paying out 5.5% of ad revenue, since (as far as I know) the unclaimed ad revenue is not pooled and the distributed proportionately to other accounts.
It’s unclear if they put YouTube premium revenue in per-creator buckets in the same way as they do ad revenue. If so, then they would only be paying out 5.5% of subscription revenue in my 10% example. If, on the other hand, subscription revenue is split amongst just the monetized creators that you personally watch, then they would be paying the 55% their marketing department likes to brag about.
I haven’t been able to figure out which way they do the accounting.
However, as of 2021, over their service lifetime, they paid $30B to creators. Their 2022 revenue was $29B
So, they’re definitely keeping the vast majority of the combined ad and subscription money that comes in the front door (or revenue exploded in 2022).
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I am almost always following a link to YouTube, or watching an embedded video. I don’t really care about the content usually. It’s a means to an end
I guess my point is, either the content has some value to you or not. If you’d rather not sit through the ad for the content, that’s fine, go and spend your time doing something that does have value to you. I use YouTube primarily as a diy reference manual. It’s infrequent enough that I don’t want to pay for a subscription. I will however exchange a small bit of time in order to get the content, because it has value…