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Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by blueflow »

fcsp wrote: post #410
blueflow wrote: post #409

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> and the odds of this happening being higher than in other parts of Germany Police data for battery/assault 2019: https://www.bka.de/DE/AktuelleInformationen/StatistikenLageb... Homicides 2020: https://www.bka.de/DE/AktuelleInformationen/StatistikenLageb... Its not keyed up for race-based crimes, but less crime means also less space for race-based crimes. Wherever this narrative came from, its dishonest. Its in ever…

You seem to be on some mission on this thread, maybe you should take a step back and reflect the discussion and arguments. 1. Hate crimes are hugely different from battery/assault, so I'm not sure how your reference adds anything 2. Police data is not a trustworthy source, as police is biased too. Just check some news articles about police refusing to even take in a report about hate crime, where this is more likely…

1. Hate crimes don't exist in Germany. It cant be measured like in the US because its not a thing.

2. You distrust police data and then tell me to refer to journalists instead. Same people who need to exaggerate their findings to generate income.

What am i doing here. You should be the one bringing up numbers on how Saxony is worse.

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by fcsp »

blueflow wrote: post #411
fcsp wrote: post #410

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You seem to be on some mission on this thread, maybe you should take a step back and reflect the discussion and arguments. 1. Hate crimes are hugely different from battery/assault, so I'm not sure how your reference adds anything 2. Police data is not a trustworthy source, as police is biased too. Just check some news articles about police refusing to even take in a report about hate crime, where this is more likely…

1. Hate crimes don't exist in Germany. It cant be measured like in the US because its not a thing. 2. You distrust police data and then tell me to refer to journalists instead. Same people who need to exaggerate their findings to generate income. What am i doing here. You should be the one bringing up numbers on how Saxony is worse.

Believe it or not, hate crimes do exist in Germany. Maybe not as a legal term, but that's a legal thing and a political decision. You cannot forbid the term to be applied single handedly. And if a political decision was made to not count something, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

However, based on your cliché populist statement of distrusting any media because it's biased, I don't see a point in continuing.

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by blueflow »

fcsp wrote: post #412
blueflow wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Hate crimes don't exist in Germany. It cant be measured like in the US because its not a thing. 2. You distrust police data and then tell me to refer to journalists instead. Same people who need to exaggerate their findings to generate income. What am i doing here. You should be the one bringing up numbers on how Saxony is worse.

Believe it or not, hate crimes do exist in Germany. Maybe not as a legal term, but that's a legal thing and a political decision. You cannot forbid the term to be applied single handedly. And if a political decision was made to not count something, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. However, based on your cliché populist statement of distrusting any media because it's biased, I don't see a point in continuing.

You are rejecting my statement based on people you associate it with (populists), not because you have a factual counter.

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by [deleted] »

Herring wrote: post #324
flo123456 wrote: post #251

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Still living here I must point out that you are pointing an equally one sided picture. While all of what you say is true and problematic, there are people from all over the world living in Dresden and some parts (especially Neustadt) are politically rather left leaning.

That's not how it works. There can be a lot of good people, but all you need is one in-your-face racist encounter to ruin your decade. It's like how even a rumor of a shark will keep you firmly on the beach.

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Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by throwaway2037 »

alexnewman wrote: post #404
jupp0r wrote: post #227

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Having lived there for a decade, I must point out that you are painting a very one sided picture of the region. It's also a hot spot for Germany's populist right. I've witnessed visiting Indian colleagues of mine being threatened on the street for having dark skin and racist demonstrations are a weekly occurrence. I eventually moved away (among other reasons) because I didn't want my kids to grow up in this environme…

What are countries less racist than the United States or Germany? I've found Canada to be incredibly racist against French Canadians. Casually mocked in the streets. If we did that in the USA you'd lose your job

Woah, I never heard about this before. Can you share more examples about discrimination against French Canadians? I assume you are speaking from outside Quebec province. Also, can any F/Cs comment from their own perspective? If true, it is a bit disappointing. Canadians that I meet are, on the whole, more balanced and reasonable that Americans. (Yeah, I'll probably get -5000 for that comment. Strictly personal experience.)

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by throwaway2037 »

outside1234 wrote: post #387
jupp0r wrote: post #227

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Having lived there for a decade, I must point out that you are painting a very one sided picture of the region. It's also a hot spot for Germany's populist right. I've witnessed visiting Indian colleagues of mine being threatened on the street for having dark skin and racist demonstrations are a weekly occurrence. I eventually moved away (among other reasons) because I didn't want my kids to grow up in this environme…

Isn't this a rampant problem across Europe thought? I went on a beach vacation with some French friends and was sort of stunned/apalled at the sort of non-stop "it is all the muslim/immigrants" fault talk.

What is this comment down voted? I think that the post makes a valid point. Not speaking about France, but I am always stunned when people think that they can make obviously Islamophobic comments in front of me. I always try to push back, but they regularly push back harder. I'm tired of it. It is bizarre, anti-social behaviour in 2023. I guess that during the 1930s in some of parts of Europe were similar for Jews/Romani. "Normal" daily discrimination was a way of life.

To be fair, the social and economic divisions between white French natives and immigrants is large. There is a excellent article in Financial Times about it: >: https://www.ft.com/content/25eda9f0-8bd3-41e1-948c-89cc7c0ec...

The solution is to keep talking about it, and continue studying the issue.

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by xp84 »

coliveira wrote: post #158
sirius87 wrote: post #3

Wonder if the Taiwanese govt at some point will step in and block these onshoring measures as a matter of national security. If countries are less reliant on manufacturing within Taiwan, its one less reason to stand up to Beijing's one China principle.

The USA has guaranteed the demise of Taiwan by making it the next target of a global war. Everyone knows that China is not going back on a territory that is theirs by international treaties, and the US has practically declared they will fight to separate Taiwan from China. The only thing that remains for Taiwanese companies is to move from homeland into other countries as a way to survive. Actually, this is probably…

This is the most CCP comment I’ve read in years. Okay, Xi

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by throwaway2037 »

mapgrep wrote: post #389
PicassoCTs wrote: post #337

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Ahistoric nonsense. Its just that south-Korea is at a empire gradient. One empire borders another empire. Which either means you gets you eternal proxy wars - or you get propped up, by the competition of the empires and can milk that sweet soft-power gradient for benefits. You get preferable trade-agreements, even if you use protectionism. You get other sweet deals. Look at all the countries who made it, dwelling alo…

No comparison between the excellent economic growth of South Korea and that of Greece, Hungary, Austria, or Italy going back to either cold war or post cold war days, despite this hypothesis of "empire gradient". If you google "World Bank GDP growth " you can find charts back to 1961. South Korea exports consumer goods to the large US market, this has been a massive fuel for their growth. They followed in Japan's foo…

Your post was very good. I take issue with one part:

    I can't think of a single manufactured product out of Greece, Hungary, Austria and few from Italy to the US.
I would strongly disagree with Austria, and modestly disagree with Italy. Austria is a low population manufacturing powerhouse. They are not making consumer goods. They are making "widgets" that other manufactures use to create finished products. B2B vs B2C, if you like. The northern half of Italy is similar, but less extreme. I also struggle to name more than a few consumer or high value products from Austria, but I recommend to look at their median income or GDP per capita and you will say "Wow, that is a rich country".

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by throwaway2037 »

_Microft wrote: post #333
logifail wrote: post #282

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> Must be something about the region [snip] Following Occam's razor, perhaps it's that it's just cheaper? "The monthly pay ranking of German states is headed by Hamburg with 3,619 euros, followed by Baden-Württemberg with 3,546 euros and Hesse with 3,494 euros. The lowest salaries are received by employees in Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania with an average of 2,391 euros. Slightly more is earned in Thuringia with 2,459…

The focus on electronics there goes back to the times of the GDR already when the "VEB Kombinat Robotron" was located in Saxony. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VEB_Robotron

To expand upon your comment, my German co-worker explained to me that Dresden was a high-tech / semi-conductor industrial hub during GDR / East Germany. It was mostly state planning to build unis and industry in same place. This was continued after Germany reunited. Given their lower cost of living advantages, I can understand why Dresden was selected. From a political view, I can imagine that German gov't officials wants to encourage economic development of former GDR, as it continues to lag West Germany.

Re: TSMC, Bosch, Infineon, NXP to jointly build semiconductor fab in Europe

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Post by HeWhoLurksLate »

cpursley wrote: post #276
exceptione wrote: post #261

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It is a bit off-topic, but the Biden admin hasn't done anything like that indeed. In fact, nuclear exchange is self-destruction. No one is stupid enough to do that, even Trump wouldn't be. So parent's remark is off. For chips to be blocked going to Germany doesn't thus require a nuclear exchange. You rather should think of smth like military aggression from China towards Taiwan.

Shooting down the Chinese ballon and arming Ukraine with long range weapons aren't potentially acts of provocation against nuclear powers? Reverse the roles. American ballon. Mexico getting armed against the US by a foreign superpower and sworn enemy. Would the US tolerate those acts?

Man, I wrote several replies to this comment but decided against them all. This is silly- the U.S. and China have been playing with balloons like this for years, that one was just really big
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