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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by dcow »

jquery wrote: post #391
ajsnigrutin wrote: post #294

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> The point is to remove certain well-known sites Like pinterest. Goddamn pinterest. Just the amount of times i've used "-pinterest" in search is staggering.

Totally get where you're coming from about removing certain domains from Google search. But let's take a step back for a sec and consider what this could look like in a different light. Imagine if Reddit got the axe - a site that, despite its redesign snafus and sometimes annoying mobile login walls, a lot of us here on HN still find pretty useful. Now, I'm not blind to the fact that Reddit's user demographic has a l…

Kagi’s filters are local per-user, not global across users.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by michaelcampbell »

matsemann wrote: post #252
karaterobot wrote: post #82

Pinterest was certainly the first site I blocked. I've never understood the hate for w3schools. No, it's not MDN, but it's not offensively bad either, and it's been a helpful reference from time to time. If w3schools comes up first in a search, I trust that it probably has the answer to whatever very simple question I must have asked, unlike something like Pinterest, which will just be spam no matter what.

See https://www.w3fools.com/ It's more a historical thing. Over a decade ago they were always on top, with often wrong/misleading/bad practice/insecure/simplified stuff. And lots of people thought of them as some kinde official entity because of their name similarity with W3C / w3.org It's much better now, though. But for lots of old school frontenders the reputation stuck.

Somewhat the same issue as the hilariously named "experts exchange" site back in the day.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by rchaud »

Karunamon wrote: post #394
rchaud wrote: post #193

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Cable TV didn't use to have ads, until somebody figured out you could charge the customer and have other streams of revenue as well. For Kagi, it's a matter of when, not if. Capitalism guarantees it.

Capitalism is the only reason they exist in the first place. Don't confuse an entire economic system with the unique problems caused by public ownership or investing (i.e. growth at all costs). Plenty of smaller organizations would be quite happy to operate with modest profits for their owners and never scale beyond that point.

> Capitalism is the only reason they exist in the first place.

Precisely, which is why enshittification is a when, not an if. A paid search engine will never pick up enough users to survive at $10/mo. It will either be acquired or start throwing in "non-intrusive" ads to balance the books.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

dcow wrote: post #409
jsnell wrote: post #201

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> That information is technically not spam, but it's on a wrong level, badly presented, etc. I'd count that kind of low quality site as spam, and the problem is that there's a basically an infinite supply of them. The boost feature is more interesting in that the curation is at least not a never-ending task. New high quality sites that I know about don't pop up all that often! It's still not an entirely robust featur…

Pintrest is among the top blocked. It clearly doesn't have spam, but it commonly shows up because of it’s vast array of user content. For people not interested in Pinterest content, this is a very useful feature. NYTimes is another good example, great content for subscribers, essentially useless spam in a search result for non-subscribers. The only person who can configure this is the user.

Can you shine light as to why w3schools.com is blocked and lowered so much, while most other sources of CS information are raised ?

Is their information of such low quality ?

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by LaundroMat »

lolinder wrote: post #6

This feature is Kagi's single best innovation in search. It's what makes their results so much better than Google's: where Google's results are usually drowning in garbage websites, Kagi comes built-in with a great set of spam filters, and on top of that you can adapt your own personal list of good and bad domains as you go!

Also: incentives are aligned. Kagi gets money from its users, so it will do what's best for them. Google's incentives are more muddled, to put it mildly.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by lolinder »

zarzavat wrote: post #330
mattmanser wrote: post #285

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It is better than it was, but I'd still much prefer to see the mdn, it's much better.

I can see a certain kind of absolute beginner enjoying w3schools more than MDN, it’s a little less intimidating. When you’re first learning a subject you often want simple lies more than complicated truths.

And this is exactly why the custom domain block list is so useful. Blocking w3schools entirely would be unhelpful to beginners, but a lot of experts find their content to be less helpful than that on other websites and would rather not see them at all.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Post by lolinder »

Gareth321 wrote: post #309
tmpX7dMeXU wrote: post #296

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Please don’t waste time on this! You’re all doing such good work and I’d much rather not see it wasted on indulging some techno-anarchist nerds

There is a lot of value currently tied up in crypto around the world, with increasing difficulty in using it on products and services. Offering a way to use this value would open additional revenue streams for Kagi. The challenge is in conversion, as many banks do not support the practise, and laws are becoming tougher with regards to crypto payments.

This sounds an awful lot like you're saying "it's too hard for me and others to convert our crypto into cash, so I'd like Kagi to do it for me."
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