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The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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Honestly I’d LOVE to revert to the old phpBB or vBulletin forum days There’s literally no reason why not and it’s never been cheaper to run

Few users of reddit communities are dedicated enough to that community to be willing to use it via an app that doesn't aggregate their interests into one doom-scrollable UI, much less donate to a site for hosting costs to keep it afloat.

The community around Qwitzatteracht, the golf game is very dedicated!

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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the realistic opp for Reddit is to charge Google access to the API which would more than cover all of the other API users. If Googs can afford to pay Apple and others to have their search be the default, they can afford to pay to crawl Reddit too

Reddit claims that is their goal, they're just doing it terribly making it hard to trust that it's actually their goal.

Source?

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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Reddit claims that is their goal, they're just doing it terribly making it hard to trust that it's actually their goal.

Source?

Like everything they've said about the change is "we can't deal with tech mega companies making billions off of our api." A quick search gave https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/14/reddit-mo...

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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Linode.

Don't throw in the towel, switch ISP. You can do everything right but are being judged by the history of your IP address with it's neighbours in the same AS block.

> switch ISP

To what?

Switching ISPs is what got me into this mess in the first place. Also, I really like Linode but for this one issue.

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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Email is dying too. I have run my own email server for 20 years. A few years ago my original ISP was acquired, forcing me to switch providers and hence get a new IP address. Ever since then my server has been blacklisted by one major player or another as a source of spam. I even tried changing to a new IP address, but the result of that was just a different set of providers blacklisting me. I'm about ready to throw i…

In the end, what you need if you want really reliable self hosting is to own your own ASN and IP range, so you can tightly control the quality. Review how clean the addresses are before purchasing them and continuously review it for the duration you own them, as some been used for spam previously.

Unfortunately, you’re probably right. I’ve been self-hosting (email, web and DNS) for the past 10 years. So far, the only issue I’ve had was GMail rate-limiting my server when I had to email about the 30 members of a local voluntary group as part of secretarial duties. However, it made me aware that the delivery of emails sent by my server is more akin to a “privilege” than a “right” on the modern Internet.

By the way, I just upvoted a reply you previously made to another comment of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36032588 Thanks for providing that example of how homoglyphs can be used to “fingerprint” plain text. I also discovered that with Vim digraphs, I can easily input spaces that are look the same as regular space characters.

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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Was there a time when Quora was good? I've been thinking of it as "Stack Exchange for arrogant, tedious bores" for as long as I've been aware of it.

I think 5-6 years ago, it was good. I enjoyed using it and experts wrote some amazing, no filter, content you can't get anywhere else. From my experience, Quora failed because: 1. Quora decided to automatically mass generate fake questions. Someone genius at Quora saw that the number of questions correlated with engagement/traffic so he/she thought let's just mass generate questions for people to answer. Inevitably,…

I remember receiving an invitation to some Quora program to post questions for the website, in exchange for monetary compensation. Never took them up on it.

But this seems like the kind of thing, that will lead to low quality content on any platform.

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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It's getting worse by the minute, too. What used to be a subreddit might now be a Discord server, which is in my opinion even worse, keeping solutions/questions to certain issues within Discord's own walls. You now have to enter a server, search for your specific problem, and, if not found, ask someone and wait for them to respond. If results are on the first page of google it's much more friction-less and convenient…

What is the appeal of discord? I've tried to multiple times and to me it's just ephemeral... something closer to irc then a web forum. The onboarding and UX is horrid (or I'm just an old dude... which is true :)

I assume this is meant to ask, "what's the point of Discord when we already have IRC?"

The answer is I can't figure out how to use IRC since I'm not an old dude. :D Also it has way less features to foster rich multimedia communication

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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The problem is that the open internet is dying. What used to be blogs and forums now is Reddit. Tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands?) of communities that had their own wiki, blog, forum, ... are now reduced to be a Subreddit. The Internet has become fragile. One service goes down and everybody suffers. If the top 10 services went down most people would think that there is no Internet at all. E-Mail is the last s…

It's getting worse by the minute, too. What used to be a subreddit might now be a Discord server, which is in my opinion even worse, keeping solutions/questions to certain issues within Discord's own walls. You now have to enter a server, search for your specific problem, and, if not found, ask someone and wait for them to respond. If results are on the first page of google it's much more friction-less and convenient…

I absolutely despise Discord. I understand that it’s essentially a chat room for communities where content is ephemeral, but so many communities use it slightly differently. For example lots of communities use it to provide help to other users but then complain when users ask the same questions over and over. (See Python discord)

What I like about Reddit or any forum is the ability to search for a topic or question you need help with and then see people discussing it and resolving it. Forums are a great Archive for discussions like this.

Where discord plays a good role is in fleeting chat. Water cooler type chat. Discord is fun if you’re heavily involved in a community, you can spend many hours a day in your favourite discord but for someone like me who just likes to pop in a now and again, it’s borderline useless.

I suppose what I’m getting to is that, for me, discord is for low effort throwaway chat, Reddit or HN for that matter is better for discussions that should be read again by interested minds.

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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I flip between Flask and Django depending on what I'm doing. If I want to make something "from scratch" I do it with Flask, if I've got an existing database (or something that can be wrangled into a database) I do it in Django.

I’m mostly hacking together APIs, but may do a Django project sooner or later. Though I personally deplore ORMs.

You don't have to use the ORM, but if you do you get a lot of cool stuff "for free".

Also it's one of the better ORMs, a lot of people were put off by the fairly broken implementation in early RoR.

Re: The Reddit blackout has left Google barren and full of holes

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>But who is to say that one day Discord won't start enacting limits on search history? The enshittification seems inevitable, in my opinion. If it's inevitable, the service doesn't matter. YCombinator can one day do to HN what Reddit did to itself, but I'll still enjoy the community while it lasts. It's better to work more on a "good enough for now but keep backups in mind" state rather than "there is nothing perfect…

What I mean is that it's inevitable for a closed-source, proprietary solution like Discord. The service does matter, and there are better alternatives to Discord for online OSS communities.

Sure, just like how there were better alternatives for Facebook, and Twitter. Even when they were at their peaks. I think we've seen often enough in history that the best, most technically impressive tool is rarely the most popular one.

If you have the power to move the people you can help try to fight that aspect of society. But at large we can't even lead the horses to those theoretical oases (let alone make them drink)

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