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Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by callalex »

throwawayadvsec wrote: post #382
gambiting wrote: post #364

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I find it really amusing that you think you need to be a millionaire to own one of these, but whatever - that's not a core of this argument. The point is that everywhere outside of the powerhouse first world economies runs on second hand cars imported from those economies. I'd know - in my country most cars are ex-german cars. And then once we're done with them, they go to Ukraine(or they used to). Then after that th…

I don't believe that, I've met people living on minimum wage with brand new mercedes, and I call those people brain dead. Buying a six figures car only makes sense if you're a millionaire. EV cars are most likely not going to be exported to have a second life.

>EV cars are most likely not going to be exported to have a second life.

What reason do you have to believe that?

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by WillPostForFood »

jrockway wrote: post #149
lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #70

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These complaints remind me of complaints I've heard about "day one" DLC (DownLoadable Content) in video games. For those unfamiliar, it's content which is available in the game upon its release but you have to pay extra for it. Sometimes, players are given the option to buy the Ultra Digital Deluxe Collector's Edition which comes with the DLC and "exclusive" shit (and also costs extra). If it's not rent seeking, it's…

Isn't this all the same thing as what airlines did after 9/11? You pay the fare and get a seat. Want it to not be a middle seat? That's $50. Want to carry on a bag? That's $50. Want to check a bag? That's $50. Want to check out the lounge before you depart? That's $50. Want some WiFi? That's $50. Want a snack? That's $50. Now your flight is $200 more than the quoted fare. (OK OK you can probably get WiFi and a snack…

You are right that legislation is the only answer to curb this abuse.

Perhaps! But a big part of the problem is airlines have near monopolies on domestic routes. I want to fly non-stop to Charlotte, my only choice is American, I want to fly to Atlanta, my only choice is Delta, for the same price as a flight to Europe. Some monopoly enforcement, or laws requiring more airport diversity might fix this without micromanaging prices or services.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by Gibbon1 »

kerkeslager wrote: post #212
waboremo wrote: post #159

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So what are you doing to change it? Are you getting involved in helping this become a focus of regulation? Maybe you'll call your representatives up? I ask these questions because often times people work themselves into a frenzy, and then take zero action. Hopefully you aren't one of them.

Nice, an ad hominem attack. We can't all afford to devote our lives to activism. But change starts with education and we can be educators when these topics come up. That's not useless.

It's the old very tiresome, well why don't you devote your life to fixing the problem while I do absolutely nothing. Then get back to me.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by Kirby64 »

ido wrote: post #403
crooked-v wrote: post #204

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> Now your flight is $200 more than the quoted fare. > Everyone seems to love this, or at least, they didn't stop flying. Nobody "loves" it. They just have to put up with it because even for people who know what they're doing with flight searches, the only way to dig into all that dark pattern shit is to have fifty browser tabs open comparing the fine details of different flights. If it was possible to, say, compare…

I mean, you do get to know airlines by reputation - generally speaking I expect Ryanair to do all the bullshit dark pattern nickel and diming and not expect it from national airlines like Lufthansa.

I think overall you overestimate the amount most people fly. Generally, many people fly very little or almost never. Sure, there's world travelers that know who are bad airlines, but knowing the 'secrets' to not having a bad flight is assuming a lot of the average occasional flight consumer.

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Post by PascLeRasc »

olyjohn wrote: post #290
gambiting wrote: post #258

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A lot of people here think building a successful subscription based product is the absolute goal in life. To them Mercedes (and BMW and others) doing this isn't dumb - it's super smart and worth applauding. Otherwise you're just leaving money on the table /s.

You put the /s, but I don't think this comment is inaccurate in any way. Some people really have enthusiasm for nothing but making money. No hobbies, no interests, no friends, no other goals.

It isn't even enthusiasm, it's the most passive "doesn't make sense not to" type of reasoning.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by amelius »

kingTug wrote: post #388
wiseowise wrote: post #348

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> Some people really have enthusiasm for nothing but making money. As long as those people have morals, what’s wrong with that?

The people who seem most enthusiastic for giant bank accounts (read: billionaires) seem to lack these morals, by and large.

The economy is based on too simple rules, hence unfair, hence this is what happens.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by kulahan »

foxyv wrote: post #100

The best EV is an electric bus with trolley lines or a tram. I hate that I have to own a monstrous depreciating asset to have reliable transportation. If you think people are buying this to drive on a track you are naive. They are paying $60/month to make their already unsafe overweight vehicle even more unsafe. I hope they go bankrupt.

Maybe for you. I have no interest in paying for this subscription, but a trolley or tram or train would not solve my problem without an absolutely mind-boggling amount of infrastructure investment, and there are so many things I would rather pay for.

I've never enjoyed public transit, here or in Europe. It's a pain in the ass to some degree, no matter how good it is. An individual car is the epitome of freedom, so you would need to convince me (and others who like our cars) why we should swap.

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by throwawayadvsec »

callalex wrote: post #411
throwawayadvsec wrote: post #382

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I don't believe that, I've met people living on minimum wage with brand new mercedes, and I call those people brain dead. Buying a six figures car only makes sense if you're a millionaire. EV cars are most likely not going to be exported to have a second life.

>EV cars are most likely not going to be exported to have a second life. What reason do you have to believe that?

that's what's already happening

Re: Mercedes EVs can go faster for $60 a month

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Post by crooked-v »

Plasmoid wrote: post #355
crooked-v wrote: post #204

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> Now your flight is $200 more than the quoted fare. > Everyone seems to love this, or at least, they didn't stop flying. Nobody "loves" it. They just have to put up with it because even for people who know what they're doing with flight searches, the only way to dig into all that dark pattern shit is to have fifty browser tabs open comparing the fine details of different flights. If it was possible to, say, compare…

Google flights will let you input the number of bags you are checking/carrying on to produce a "final" price.

That still leaves out leg room, meal service, lounge access, and all the other things that somebody might want.
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