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I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by efreak »

j0057 wrote: post #408
efreak wrote: post #398

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Use BubbleUPnP server instead, and dump it behind nginx or other reverse proxy for https support (it also has an option built-in for https, I think). No need for wireguard, unless you're already using it for other things. If necessary, it can also do transcoding for you. A 512gb microsd might also cost you less than a few months of cell service at $50, and if that's not enough 1-1.5tb is also available these days (mi…

Thanks – I need the UPNP server to stream to other devices in the home too, and BubbleUPNP server is strangely not a UPNP server, according to their website. I'm actually about 99% happy with ReadyMedia (it should serve larger album art, and have some way of browsing recently added media), and also use the Wireguard to keep other services off the public internet, it gives me a lot of peace of mind to have a smaller a…

BubbleUPnP server is (asking other things) an authenticated DLNA proxy, for exposing your server to the internet. It works alongside a server like readymedia, rather than replacing it. It's unfortunate, imo, since I'd love to have a DLNA server that exposed my cloud storage and media library together, like the BubbleUPnP Android app is capable of doing, but without needing to have an Android device in the mix.

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Post by DavideNL »

pimeys wrote: post #403
royaltjames wrote: post #383

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when w.cd died I lost a part of my life :'(

It kind of still exists. Not as great, but a great resource if you're into digging music.

Where does it still exist? I'd appreciate a PM :-)

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Post by dns_snek »

mawise wrote: post #407
dns_snek wrote: post #323

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> could it be any licensing problem No more than storing your legally-archived CDs on , I would imagine. IANAL, of course, but intuitively there shouldn't be any issues as long as the songs aren't made available to anyone other than the user who uploaded it.

There was a startup a while ago called mp3.com[1], their model was: 1. put your CD in your computer 2. our website recognizes the CD 3. we grant you listening access to songs on that CD (without actually ripping/uploading) They got sued and lost: >Judge Jed S. Rakoff, in the case UMG v. MP3.com, ruled in favor of the record labels against MP3.com and the service on the copyright law provision of "making mechanical co…

That's interesting, although one of the comments in this thread mentioned Capitol Records v. MP3Tunes [1], a similar case tried in the same court 10 years later.

MP3Tunes 'won' in principle but they were liable for ignoring DMCA takedown notices and seeding the service with unauthorized copies of music.

> First, it established DMCA safe harbor protection for online locker services, potentially granting them "broad immunity from copyright liability". Second, it endorsed data deduplication, which allows cloud music services to more efficiently allocate storage and reduce the amount of space needed per user.

I would be curious to know why the rulings were different. If anything it seems like MP3.com provided stronger guarantees that their users legally owned the songs by requiring them to insert a CD.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_Records,_Inc._v._MP3Tu...

Re: I don't want streaming music, I just want to stream my music

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Post by sumtechguy »

genewitch wrote: post #389
sumtechguy wrote: post #371

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Plex was forked from XBMC which is renamed to KODI an open source project. Think the fork was around version 8 or 9. KODI is up to 20. Downside to KODI is it does not have streaming built in like Plex. But has built in emulation again like earlier version of XBMC.

what do you mean by "KODI ... does not have streaming"? I have rpi with KODI on my son's TV and it streams everything over CIFS from my NAS - the NAS doesn't transcode or otherwise do anything but host the cifs share.

Plex can act as a 'head unit' and do format transform and metadata management. Then stream it to a secondary plex client. KODI does not do that. That is the one killer feature Plex has over KODI. In all ways KODI is better except in that use case. Picking data from a CIFS is basic XBMC/KODI/Plex functionality and has been in there for a long time going back to the original xbox days. Jellyfin is similar with its ability to transcode and stream that to a client. In some cases they let you stream it thru a web client (which is kinda cool).

It is a nice feature for low bandwidth applications. Say a VPN to your phone, or a friends house who has crappy internet. If I remember correctly there were a lot of clients also for TV's which have absolute rubbish CPU power and no local storage (for holding metadata). Also the centrally managed metadata is nice when you have more than one client. You can get the same effect with KODI and using a DB like mysql or mariadb. But it is sort of finicky to setup correctly.

I personally use KODI as I do not need that particular streaming feature. Also it is broken with ISO's which is one of my major use cases.

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Post by slickdork »

pge wrote: post #29
slickdork wrote: post #17

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Google music had the system to same upload your own music for a while.

still does - I use it daily

Weird, I swapped off the platform when they removed it around 2016. They must have reintroduced it?

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Post by heleninboodler »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #251
foolwhofollows wrote: post #237

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Is there room in your paradigm for an audiophile 1.5? Someone who buys the $2000 pre-amp but knows full-well that interconnects are snake-oil; someone who knows that spending more than $1000 per separate will not be worth the money unless you have a dedecated listening room with accoustic panelling.

There is definitely a room in my paradigm for this category. There is room in my heart. This is who I aspire to be, if I ever feel like getting more serious about music. What I don't have, however, is the right term for this type of person. I just don't think they'll call themselves audiophile - they wouldn't want others to confuse them with the other "audiophiles" - i.e. the philistines (1) and the crackpots (2).

I agree with this. I consider myself a person who is very interested in a quality music-listening experience in that I want it to sound good (I can't believe how many people listen to music out of their phone's speaker these days) and I want a high degree of control/convenience out of my music player (mostly oriented around playing entire albums and/or dynamically building playlists on the fly based on where the mood takes me). But I really don't want to be called an audiophile, because of the crazy pseudoscientific baggage that word carries. So for a product to label itself "for audiophiles" creates a little "ugh, poor choice" flinch in me.

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Post by Arn_Thor »

cridenour wrote: post #129
bodge5000 wrote: post #126

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Does plex have anything for audiobooks (preferably streaming with the option to download locally)? I quit audible after they removed desktop support but I managed to get all my books out of their DRM, but right now they just sit on an external ssd and I have to manually load them onto whatever laptop I'm using (which also means they don't keep their place between devices)

Prologue for iOS is a Plex audiobook player that is better than any audiobook player has a right to be. Here's a good guide on how to set up Plex for proper metadata with audiobooks: https://github.com/seanap/Plex-Audiobook-Guide

I'd never thought to use Plex with audiobooks before but this post and guide got me started. Now I've got all my [Amazon audiobook service] books saved safely for when someone inevitably tries to pull the plug on it. And streaming through Prologue is a way better experience than the commercial option

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Post by Arn_Thor »

codethief wrote: post #394
ggm wrote: post #10

I paid for plex, I stream my own music from anywhere via the callback into my home net. I can chromecast, play in-car, whatever. If I have IP "it just works" Its backed on an RPI-4 NAS I built, running the plex arm linux code. I have another RPI-3 in the living room as a headless music source to an amp. In the past I've used HDMI to VGA+audio splitters to scatter output to devices. This is my music, on my disks, unde…

> I paid for plex I just spent 5min browsing their website and I still have no idea how much it costs, or whether they offer cloud storage or I need to install a media server application on my NAS at home. And how come they can offer "free movies"? Could anyone explain what their business model looks like? The website looks rather sketchy…

Plex through its web interface and apps offers free streaming of some live TV and movies. Free as in beer.

For enthusiasts, it can also catalogue and offer a portal for your local media collection. That is also free.

The Plex Pass is not free. It offers some neat customization features for the app, plus hardware transcoding of media which I suspect is the reason most people pay for it.

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Post by Arn_Thor »

causi wrote: post #348
ggm wrote: post #10

I paid for plex, I stream my own music from anywhere via the callback into my home net. I can chromecast, play in-car, whatever. If I have IP "it just works" Its backed on an RPI-4 NAS I built, running the plex arm linux code. I have another RPI-3 in the living room as a headless music source to an amp. In the past I've used HDMI to VGA+audio splitters to scatter output to devices. This is my music, on my disks, unde…

I wish Plex or Jellyfin would get support for audiobooks. I can keep my music library on my phone but my audiobook library is much larger and sometimes I get an itch to listen to something I don't have on me.

I just set up Plex with the Audnexus agent (https://github.com/seanap/Audiobooks.bundle), using the Prologue app (https://prologue.audio/) to listen on my phone. It was a little bit of a fiddle to set up, but it's worked wonderfully.
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