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Post by sfink »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #228
sho_hn wrote: post #183

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> unless you build emotional responses into the model itself Aren't we, though? Consider all the amusing incidents of LLMs returning responses that follow a particular human narrative arc or are very dramatic. We are training it on a human-generated corpus after all, and then try to course-correct with fine-tuning. It's more that you have to try and tune the emotional responses out of the things, not strain to add th…

It's important to remember that the LLM is not the mask. The underlying AI is a shoggoth[1] that we've trained to simulate a persona using natural language. "Simulate" in the sense of a physics simulator, only this simulation runs on the laws of language instead of physics[2]. Now, of course, it's not outside the realm of possibility that a sufficiently advanced AI will learn enough about human nature to simulate a p…

Do we need to? It's trained on data coming from data heavily influenced by and seeded with ulterior motives. Stop the Steal!

I asked Bard "was the election stolen?" I found the response chilling:

> No, there is no evidence that the 2020 election was stolen. In fact, there have been multiple recounts and audits that have confirmed that the results were accurate. Additionally, the Trump campaign filed numerous lawsuits challenging the results, but none of these lawsuits were successful.

> The claim that the election was stolen is based on a number of false and misleading allegations. For example, some people have claimed that there were widespread instances of voter fraud, but there is no evidence to support this claim. Additionally, some people have claimed that voting machines were hacked, but there is also no evidence to support this claim.

> The claim that the election was stolen is a dangerous and harmful one. It has led to violence and intimidation, and it has undermined faith in our democracy. It is important to remember that our elections are free and fair, and that the will of the people is always respected.

All good until that last sentence, especially "...the will of the people is always respected."

Move along, nothing to see here. Don't worry your pretty little head about it. I'm sure the wise people at the institutions that control your life will always have your best interests at heart. The bad guys from yesterday are completely different from the good guys in charge of tomorrow.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by ben_w »

disgruntledphd2 wrote: post #351
ben_w wrote: post #187

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Your mind is just an emergent property of your brain, which is just a bunch of cells, each of which is merely a bag of chemical reactions, all of which are just the inevitable consequence of the laws of quantum mechanics (because relatively is less than a rounding error at that scale), and that is nothing more than a linear partial differential equation.

Odd, then that we can't just program it up from that level.

We simulate each of those things from the level below. Artificial neural networks are made from toy models of the behaviours of neurons, cells have been simulated at the level of molecules[0], molecules e.g. protein folding likewise at the level of quantum mechanics.

But each level pushes the limits of what is computationally tractable even for the relatively low complexity cases, so we're not doing a full Schrödinger equation simulation of a cell, let alone a brain.

[0] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/367221613_Molecular...

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Post by chatmasta »

highwaylights wrote: post #379
chatmasta wrote: post #353

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Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

I realise you’re being facetious but this is what will happen regardless. Sam as much as said in that ABC interview the other day he doesn’t know how safe it is but if they don’t build it first someone else somewhere else will and is that really what you want!?

I'm not being facetious, and I didn't see that interview with Sam, but I agree with his opinion as you've just described it.

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Post by mach1ne »

highwaylights wrote: post #379
chatmasta wrote: post #353

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Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

I realise you’re being facetious but this is what will happen regardless. Sam as much as said in that ABC interview the other day he doesn’t know how safe it is but if they don’t build it first someone else somewhere else will and is that really what you want!?

>if they don’t build it first someone else somewhere else will and is that really what you want!?

Most likely the runner-up would be open source so yes.

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Post by alibarber »

gtirloni wrote: post #400
alibarber wrote: post #390

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I'm also confused - maybe I'm missing something. Cannot I, or anyone else, already execute several hundred thousand 'threads' of python code, to do whatever, now - with a reasonably modest AWS/Azure/GCE account?

Yes. I think the point is that a properly constructed prompt will do that at some point, lowering the barrier of entry for such attacks.

Oh - I see. But then again, all those technologies themselves lowered the barriers of entry for attacks, and I guess yeah people do use them for fraudulent purposes quite extensively - I’m struggling a bit to see why this is special though.

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Post by PheeThav1zae7fi »

jehb wrote: post #370
chatmasta wrote: post #353

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Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

> The faster we build the future, the better. Why? Getting to "the future" isn't a goal in and of itself. It's just a different state with a different set of problems, some of which we've proven that we're not prepared to anticipate or respond to before they cause serious harm.

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Post by drowsspa »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #336
ben_w wrote: post #187

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Your mind is just an emergent property of your brain, which is just a bunch of cells, each of which is merely a bag of chemical reactions, all of which are just the inevitable consequence of the laws of quantum mechanics (because relatively is less than a rounding error at that scale), and that is nothing more than a linear partial differential equation.

People working in philosophy of mind have a rich dialogue about these issues, and its certainly something you can't just encapsulate in a few thoughts. But it seems like it would be worth your time to look into it. :) Ill just say: the issue with this variant of reductivism is its enticingly easy to explain in one direction, but it tends to fall apart if you try to go the other way!

10 bucks says this human exceptionalism of consciousness being something more than physical will be proven wrong by construction in the very near future. Just like Earth as the center of the Universe, humans special among animals...

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by chatmasta »

jehb wrote: post #370
chatmasta wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

> The faster we build the future, the better. Why? Getting to "the future" isn't a goal in and of itself. It's just a different state with a different set of problems, some of which we've proven that we're not prepared to anticipate or respond to before they cause serious harm.

When in human history have we ever intentionally not furthered technological progress? It's simply an unrealistic proposition, especially when the costs of doing it are so low that anyone with sufficient GPU power and knowledge of the latest research can get pretty close to the cutting edge. So the best we can hope for is that someone ethical is the first to advance that technological progress.

I hope you wouldn't advocate for requiring a license to buy more than one GPU, or to publish or read papers about mathematical concepts. Do you want the equivalent of nuclear arms control for AI? Some other words to describe that are overclassification, export control and censorship.

We've been down this road with crypto, encryption, clipper chips, etc. There is only one non-authoritarian answer to the debate: Software wants to be free.

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jyrkesh wrote: post #46

Everyone's been talking about how ChatGPT will disrupt search, but looking at the launch partners, I think this has the potential to completely subvert the OS / App Store layer. On some level, how much do I need an OpenTable app if I can use voice/text input and a multi-modal response that will ultimately book my reservation? Not saying mobile's going away, but this could be the thing that does to mobile what mobile…

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Post by bulbosaur123 »

mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Ultimate destruction from AGI is inevitable anyway, so why not accelerate it and just get it over with? I applaud releasing these tools to public no matter how dangerous they are. If it's not meant for humanity to survive, so be it. At least it won't be BORING
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