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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by iLoveOncall »

tomnipotent wrote: post #393
iLoveOncall wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, can't you just use the laptop? I see the value proposition that this has in the particular case of Framework where you update certain parts, but the vast majority of laptops cannot have any change beside the RAM (if you're lucky) and the storage (same). So in those situations, the best PC case is the one you already have: the laptop.

> I mean, can't you just use the laptop? The idea is that you have a spare mainboard laying around if you've upgraded. A cheap $40 case is a great way of putting that hardware to use.

Yes, which is why I said it makes sense for Framework but not for other constructors where you can't upgrade the board but keep the shell...

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by modderation »

wmf wrote: post #373
CameronNemo wrote: post #368

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Third-party modules could also get killed off by first-party ones I think it is pretty clear that Framework intends to allow you to buy the most barebones laptop you can. I mean they let you buy 0 of the little cartridge modules, I assume they won't force people to buy one of these PCIex8 modules.

I mean if some company is selling, say, a Radeon 7600 module and then Framework comes out with their own "official" 7600 module then the third-party company is toast.

Alternatively, that means Framework doesn't need to spend resources building their own version, or acquiring a company that makes one. It's to Framework's benefit that they don't compete with module vendors. They just need to let the vendor list them in the official marketplace and promote them as a success story for the modular laptop concept.

With this in mind, trampling module vendors doesn't seem like a great idea. What's the point of creating an ecosystem if there's nobody around to participate?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by xdennis »

squarefoot wrote: post #309

"We’ve partnered with Cooler Master to create an awesome new way to re-use your Framework Laptop Mainboards: a transparent, small form factor case. This will be available this Spring for $39 USD." This is the way. More vendors should do that. A huge load of obsolete but perfectly working laptop mainboards could be repurposed to other uses. Need a small system to set up a service on a LAN but don't want to feed scalpe…

> Framework Laptop Mainboards

_Main_board? I know you're not supposed to call trunk "master" anymore because of (incorrect) associations with slavery, but what's wrong with "mother"?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by Yujf »

xdennis wrote: post #413
squarefoot wrote: post #309

"We’ve partnered with Cooler Master to create an awesome new way to re-use your Framework Laptop Mainboards: a transparent, small form factor case. This will be available this Spring for $39 USD." This is the way. More vendors should do that. A huge load of obsolete but perfectly working laptop mainboards could be repurposed to other uses. Need a small system to set up a service on a LAN but don't want to feed scalpe…

> Framework Laptop Mainboards _Main_board? I know you're not supposed to call trunk "master" anymore because of (incorrect) associations with slavery, but what's wrong with "mother"?

It is gendered, which I suppose some people take issue with?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by frereubu »

xdennis wrote: post #413
squarefoot wrote: post #309

"We’ve partnered with Cooler Master to create an awesome new way to re-use your Framework Laptop Mainboards: a transparent, small form factor case. This will be available this Spring for $39 USD." This is the way. More vendors should do that. A huge load of obsolete but perfectly working laptop mainboards could be repurposed to other uses. Need a small system to set up a service on a LAN but don't want to feed scalpe…

> Framework Laptop Mainboards _Main_board? I know you're not supposed to call trunk "master" anymore because of (incorrect) associations with slavery, but what's wrong with "mother"?

I'm not stating an opinion on this one way or the other, but the language preferred by some people now is "people who give birth" rather than "mother" because it's seen as gender-specific (i.e. there are trans men who can still give birth). I hear them use this on podcasts occasionally, and heard one where they flagged in advance that interviewees had used the word "mother".

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by tiberriver256 »

nrp wrote: post #321
Haegin wrote: post #318

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I'd love someone to do a split ortholinear keyboard on a laptop. That'd probably push it to instant buy for me almost regardless of the rest of the specs etc.

Split ortholinear is possible. We didn't show this, but it is technically possible to build an Input Module for the Framework Laptop 16 that is full width, giving a lot of horizontal real estate for a split layout.

As a dev with hands that won't let me use a standard laptop keyboard for more than a few minutes without being in pain, this is so needed. It would be so good to be mobile again.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by WJW »

xdennis wrote: post #413
squarefoot wrote: post #309

"We’ve partnered with Cooler Master to create an awesome new way to re-use your Framework Laptop Mainboards: a transparent, small form factor case. This will be available this Spring for $39 USD." This is the way. More vendors should do that. A huge load of obsolete but perfectly working laptop mainboards could be repurposed to other uses. Need a small system to set up a service on a LAN but don't want to feed scalpe…

> Framework Laptop Mainboards _Main_board? I know you're not supposed to call trunk "master" anymore because of (incorrect) associations with slavery, but what's wrong with "mother"?

It's only a "mother"board if you can plug in daughterboards like graphics, sound or other expansion cards, typically oriented orthogonally to the mother board. That doesn't fit in a laptop form factor, so the term there is usually mainboard as many of the other functionalities have been consolidated onto that one PCB.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by mickotron »

tristor wrote: post #48
KeepingItToasty wrote: post #18

Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

Is one of the models of CPU available the 7840HS? This sounds fantastic, I very well may buy a Framework laptop later this week/weekend. EDIT: Their site came back up, after reading the blog post I pre-ordered the Ryzen 7 13" to be my new Linux laptop.

I just pre-ordered as well, been eyeing off a Framework for at least a year.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by ithkuil »

WJW wrote: post #417
xdennis wrote: post #413

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Framework Laptop Mainboards _Main_board? I know you're not supposed to call trunk "master" anymore because of (incorrect) associations with slavery, but what's wrong with "mother"?

It's only a "mother"board if you can plug in daughterboards like graphics, sound or other expansion cards, typically oriented orthogonally to the mother board. That doesn't fit in a laptop form factor, so the term there is usually mainboard as many of the other functionalities have been consolidated onto that one PCB.

Indeed peripherals like printers usually have "mainboards" and not motherboards.

Some vendors traditionally use different names, like apple uses "logic board"

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