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KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by scroot »

tsuujin wrote: post #406
chriswarbo wrote: post #333

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Indeed; GNU Guix is essentially the same thing, but with a different language and CLI (the two main source of complaints about Nix). Similar to how Git has a notorious CLI; but that doesn't invalidate the idea of DVCS (with alternative implementations in Mercurial, Bazaar, Darcs, etc.)

I use nix as my package manager, but I would use Guix instead if it would support macs. Nix is a great idea but it has a huge amount of ground to cover in reducing onboarding friction.

The lack of mac support is tragic. It means I can't use guix at work, where I might benefit from it the most.

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by butterNaN »

pjmlp wrote: post #277
panick21_ wrote: post #244

I feel like one thing that is still holding Linux Desktop and any initiative like this back is that we don't have really high quality linux laptops on the market. We have some people like System76 doing great things, but not in Europe and for all their great work its not the highest quality stuff from China with some serious limitations. For all the things the European Union funds, from chip manufacture, HPC and many…

https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/ https://www.lenovo.com/pt/pt/d/portateis-linux https://linuxsi.com/ https://www.skroutz.gr/c/25/laptop/f/526320/Linux.html The problem isn't the hardware per se, rather lack of focus on a single desktop experience like the competition. For non-technical users and app developers.

I believe that's what System76 is trying to do.

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by bandrami »

sph wrote: post #282
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #274

> As we also open the ability for applications to be uploaded in binary form, which is essential for low-friction compatibility with popular language-specific build systems such as Electron/Node, Rust, Go, etc - we also reduce the ability for users to scrutinise the source in the Flathub build system that was used to build their application. ...and their solution is running an antivirus scanner rather than stepping b…

Is NixOS a cult? Every time someone posts about Linux packaging, there's a "you should just use NixOS" comment. Although it provides its own solution to the Linux packaging problem, it's a single solution that comes with a whole load of baggage with it. It is not the panacea its proponents wants us to believe it is.

It really pretty much is the panacea people say it is, which is why watching everything else go by is so frustrating

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by andreareina »

99112000 wrote: post #213
andreareina wrote: post #186

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My only complaint about arch/i3 so far is that updating Firefox forces a restart of Firefox, and I've got FF windows scattered over a few workspaces so I need to sift them back to their places. Come to think of it I can probably prune one of the windows... ETA: and maybe one of the workspaces...

I'm almost sure this is an excerpt straight from https://youtu.be/7Nj9ZjwOdFQ

I'm flattered you think I achieve perfect window placement.

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by andreareina »

twojacobtwo wrote: post #214
andreareina wrote: post #186

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My only complaint about arch/i3 so far is that updating Firefox forces a restart of Firefox, and I've got FF windows scattered over a few workspaces so I need to sift them back to their places. Come to think of it I can probably prune one of the windows... ETA: and maybe one of the workspaces...

Would it be possible to create a script to save the desktop and screen position for each firefox window on close and restore them to the recorded desktops and positions on open? I haven't used i3 much (or arch at all), but I'm fairly certain I did something similar using Xubuntu some years back.

I'm vaguely aware of tools that'll do it for i3 but thus far I've just avoided restarting as much as I can. The call-out to James Mickens is not altogether inaccurate (:

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Post by andreareina »

bladderlover23 wrote: post #396
andreareina wrote: post #186

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My only complaint about arch/i3 so far is that updating Firefox forces a restart of Firefox, and I've got FF windows scattered over a few workspaces so I need to sift them back to their places. Come to think of it I can probably prune one of the windows... ETA: and maybe one of the workspaces...

Keep in mind that you can downgrade firefox back after the update with pacman -U /var/lib/something, then just refresh/keep using the open windows with no issue.

Aren't downgrades heavily discouraged in Arch?

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by deadly_syn »

uncletaco wrote: post #374
deadly_syn wrote: post #325

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I have a quote I like throwing around about nix/nixos "the nix ecosystem is like a cult. Not because it tries to be, but because the ideas are so good you cannot deny them."

This is something charismatic youth pastor would say in a weird denomination that encourages getting tattoos.

You say that like its a bad thing? Now do you want "nix rocks'" in black, red or blue ink?

/s

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by imtringued »

Athas wrote: post #256
Rotareti wrote: post #177

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> Meanwhile we have distros lagging behind for years to provide a new package because they can't break all the things depending on the old version. I'm glad I left this category of problems behind me 5 years ago when I switched both, my personal and my work laptop to arch-linux/i3wm. These two machines have been running for 5 years, almost daily, with almost no issues, with the latest software packages. If the hardwa…

My impression is that Arch is not technically unusual among distributions, but is simply well-polished, documented, and very active (and has an easy way to install unvetted community packages). If this impression is correct, you still run the risk of unnoticed outdated software if the amount of volunteers drop, or a particularly critical one no longer has the time. Which part of Arch's design prevents the issue descr…

The difference is that arch doesn't have downstream forks of repositories. They just package the upstream versions which means the dev cycle is much tighter which in turn means they can update more frequently which means they just switch to the next major version and don't worry about breaking their special sauce forks. The downside is that there are people using old distros and stuck with old major versions who use eg. Python 2 by default.

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by imtringued »

megous wrote: post #251
afavour wrote: post #142

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I know “Chrome bad” is a meme-level comment at this point but it’s a hugely impressive piece of software, basically an operating system unto itself at this point. Not to mention the V8 engine etc. Plenty to criticise about it from a product perspective but from an engineering one it is kind of a marvel.

Maybe engineers might be enamoured by it. Whatever. On my GFs computer Chrome starts in about 7 minutes after fresh boot, no other programs running, yet. From a fricking Samsung SSD, 8GiB RAM. All it has to do is show some fake tabs and render a single page content. Tell about its quality to my GF. She's used to it, but some of these days, I'll check the DNS logs, to see if it's really loading all the 1000 tabs (she…

Chrome wasn't built for 1000 tabs. You need firefox for that.

Re: KDE and GNOME seeks $100k to turn Flathub into a Store for the Linux desktop

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Post by pjmlp »

butterNaN wrote: post #412
pjmlp wrote: post #277

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https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ https://www.notebooksbilliger.de/ https://www.lenovo.com/pt/pt/d/portateis-linux https://linuxsi.com/ https://www.skroutz.gr/c/25/laptop/f/526320/Linux.html The problem isn't the hardware per se, rather lack of focus on a single desktop experience like the competition. For non-technical users and app developers.

I believe that's what System76 is trying to do.

Without a proper app development stack they won't go far, it is going to be Electron as always.
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