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Apple’s 2½ year old iPhone 12 is 6% faster than the new Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra

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Post by acdha »

yamtaddle wrote: post #260
mrtksn wrote: post #239

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> Everyone in this thread is arguing about operating systems and their mobile OS preference... why? It's like football game for geeks, it's not a big deal. It's fun as long as you don't take it too seriously. On a more serious note, I prefer Apple's style of doing things and pray to the gods Android doesn't obliterate Apple's OS. Just last week I got my hands on a Amazon Fire TV, it was cool until the AirScreen app s…

I got a Shield to try to save some cash, getting hardware with a good TV interface that could do h.265 decoding. Bugfest and terrible (and goddamn laggy ) UI. Ended up on an AppleTV, which is what I should have gotten in the first place I guess. Every time I try to save money by avoiding Apple I end up paying far more for it in jank, lost time, and frustration. I hate how shit my other options are in nearly all of Ap…

> Every time I try to save money by avoiding Apple I end up paying far more for it in jank, lost time, and frustration. I hate how shit my other options are in nearly all of Apple's product categories

This was me recently. Our old TV broke so I bought a new Samsung at Costco. The setup process was ominous: they want you to sign away all of your data to whoever they choose to sell it to, and the only way to get it on the Wi-Fi was to use their setup app which refuses to let you configure the TV unless you give it background high-precision location tracking permission. They lie about that being needed to configure Wi-Fi in response to negative reviews.

I set it up before uninstalling the phone app, and fired up Disney+ for my son. Mission accomplished!

He makes it like 5 minutes in to Finding Nemo and complains because it’s doing jerky 1-2 fps slideshow mode any time the scene has much motion at all.

We switch to Netflix. Same problem.

Maybe it’s our normally very reliable Wi-Fi? Nope, everything works great on his iPad and that can even AirPlay to the TV flawlessly. Also it downloaded its software updates at like 500Mbps according to the Eero app so it seems like it would have to be a very selective network problem.

The most likely explanation is that Samsung sells 4K TVs with processors which can’t reliably keep up with a complex 4K stream.

I see where this is going, and factory reset the TV before blocking it on the Wi-Fi. It’s a beautiful display and I don’t want it turning into e-waste so time to solve problems the American way by shopping. Amazon delivered an Apple TV early the next morning and it’s everything Samsung wants to be when they grow up: the UI is designed by professionals and noticeably more responsive, the setup process is painless, and it can play 4K in any app flawlessly.

Now, I know that this is because Samsung put the equivalent of something like a decade-old phone SoC in there while Apple is using an A14 which is basically laptop-class and costs considerably more, but if they want to save money on their BOM they shouldn’t advertise things on the side of the box when their hardware doesn’t support it.

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Post by asow92 »

AstixAndBelix wrote: post #221
asow92 wrote: post #202

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As an iOS developer, 3 years is a long time to upgrade.

My mother's iPhone 6 is running iOS 15, which will be supported by all the apps she uses for at least 2-3 more years, bringing the total lifetime of her smartphone close to 10 years. Sure, Apple is pretty draconian when it comes to how much the developers have to keep their tooling up to date, but that's not the same on the consumer side anymore

Many apps support two versions behind as a general rule of thumb, but the bigger the app the further back they tend to support.

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Post by gamblor956 »

acdha wrote: post #408
gamblor956 wrote: post #183

My 22Ultra overnight: loses 6-8% battery life. My GF's iPhone 14 overnight: loses 20% battery life. My GF uses my phone more than I do because her iPhone is usually dead by the end of the day if she doesn't remember to charge it every few hours. I'm willing to accept a slightly slower phone if it means my phone can make it through the day without me being a hostage to charging.

Do you have the same apps installed? Years back I found uninstalling Facebook was like a 20% battery life improvement - I didn’t even open it much but it was so busy in the background. Going through the battery usage report and pruning apps is like flossing: most people should do it more often than they do.

Yes, we both have FB and Insta installed...

The problem is the poor battery management on the phone. Not fair to blame the apps for Apple's failure.

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Post by mhio »

basch wrote: post #349
acdha wrote: post #347

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That is something Alex Russell, the author of that blog post, is trying to raise awareness of in the industry but changing the culture of web development is a lot harder than buying a different phone (in many cases that won't even cost you more money).

Fix it at the rendering level. My device should default to not rendering a website the way the developer asks it to, but the way my defaults are set. Load a minimum viable site, ask my permission to execute more.

I think there is a general security and privacy argument for this type of setup as well.

As a web browser has become a general purpose VM, it has capabilities far surpassing what is needed at least 50% the time, I'd go as high as 90% of the time personally. Which is great that we have a magical run anything anywhere VM, but it's a double edge sword of the performance, security and privacy issues that come along with it.

If there was a well defined subset of functionality that browsers presented as the default "web enclave" and then opening up all the bells and whistles further was an opt in choice, a large chunk of those issues would go away. But that requires a bunch of people to agree on what that subset should include and the horror of trying to keep it updated over time. And that's _everyone_, including users putting up with "opting in" rather than everything just working.

I'm not sure I can see a subset of features becoming the default approach, at least until there is some horrible self propagating browser worm that impacts a large percentage of the world (or maybe by the 2nd or 3rd time, we will have had enough).

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Post by notatoad »

mmcnl wrote: post #365
notatoad wrote: post #270

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>Faster performance today means longer lasting tomorrow. only if CPU performance plateaus in future generations. as long as new phones keep having drastically better performance, apps will keep updating to use it.

That's precisely what is meant right? If the phone is faster today, there is more headroom to accommodate for future increased hardware requirements.

but if the phone is faster today, apps will start building features to use that CPU today. when the next phone comes out with a faster processor, you're still going to be behind the curve.

maybe less relevant in android, where phones generally have a wide spread of capabilities. but in iphone land, where most people are on the two most recent generations, you're always going to find developers assuming you have more processing power than you actually do if you're not on the latest generation.

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Post by tzs »

koolba wrote: post #74
hahamaster wrote: post #62

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You take your phone to a shop and come back an hour later and boom you have a new battery. I once had a microphone fail on my phone and it was exact same scenario. It's really not a big deal.

If you’re going to do this for an iPhone then best to hurry up. They’re raising the prices at the end of the month. I think from $49 to $89.

It's going from $49 to $69 for iPhone 8 and older, and from $69 to $89 for iPhones newer than 8 but older than 13. 13 is remaining $99.

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Post by tzs »

roneythomas6 wrote: post #374
KennyBlanken wrote: post #169

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If your iPad is still covered under some sort of warranty it's absolutely new enough that it has a battery health section in the settings. Something tells me you're not really being honest with us, for the sake of a "apple suxx" story.

iPadOS doesn't show battery health. It's always been like this. If you can show me where you are seeing battery health on a iPad then let me know.

If you have a Mac probably the easiest way to see it is to connect the iPad to the Mac via USB and then use a third party app. I use this one, Coconut Battery [1].

The battery health is also included occasionally in the analytics the iPad sends to Apple if you have sending analytics. In Settings go to Privacy & Security/Analytics and Improvements/Analytics Data.

That takes you to a list of various recent analytics files that have been sent to Apple. If battery health was included it will be in one of the files "log-aggregated" files (iPadOS Battery health isn't always included in the analytics uploads so you might not have it in any of the files. Then you just have to keep checking as new files appear.

Here's a video I found talking about this [2]. The author of the video has written a shortcut [3] that shows up in the shar sheet. When viewing an analytics file you can share it with that shortcut and the shortcut will try to find battery information in that file and display it.

I just gave it a try but my logs don't currently have health information so I don't know how well it actually works for that. It did get cycle count from my logs and that matches what Coconut Battery shows.

[1] https://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ_0l5pi7ro

[3] https://www.itecheverything.com/powerutil

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Post by sdflhasjd »

mrtksn wrote: post #385
dileepkr wrote: post #232

To all the iphone diehards, I recently switched from Samsung to iphone 14PM and I whole heartedly hate following things: 1. The keyboard in ios: its unintuitive and ancient compared to the android counterparts. And No, Gboard, swiftkey keyboard in ios suck equally bad too. 2. Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. This alone drains ~8% of battery overnight on my iphone an…

> . Battery drain issues: Battery drains randomly, main culprit being "find my" process. You probably have an AirTag around you, there's a bug causing that. Update the AirTag firmware. > 3. Lack of the back button is a huge pain in the ass Swipe from the left edge of the screen to right, that's the iOS back button.

> Update the AirTag firmware.

What if it's not my AirTag?

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Post by konart »

762236 wrote: post #265
konart wrote: post #25

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> in which I can run my browser engine of choice Soon on iOS too, to be fair. USB-C to follow most likely.

Hopefully with USB-3 speeds. Last I understood, the iPhone still transfers data at USB-2 speeds. This is crazy when you want to transfer large videos, or backup.

I'm only using the port for charging, but okay. I mean with wifi you can do the same quickly too and you don't need a cable for this.

I think the good old Galaxy Nexus was the last phone I've been using in a usb-drive mode

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