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No one seems to have mentioned the really interesting aspect here: Twitter must be bleeding DAUs. There are other indicators too. After the takeover they dropped the login wall, but it is back, and way more aggressive than before. You can't even scroll down to see more tweets now, or view replies. The ads are also really weird and odd. Either their ad targeting system is broken, or they just lost so many advertisers…

this isn‘t totally true. Today I also noticed that we login wall takes more screen space - but you can click it away and it didn‘t return for me anymore on iOS

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Possibly malicious enforcement by Twitter staff in light of https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604593057676300288 “Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme”

I wouldn't be surprised if the employee who did this gets fired as a result of this. In fact, I'd be shocked if @paulg isn't reinstated within 48 hours (as they did with Taylor Lorenz a few hours ago.) All of Musk's previous interactions with Graham suggests that their relationship is friendly. And if there's one thing we've seen from Elon Musk's Twitter, it's that he's not hesitant to fire Twitter employees.

That'd be extremely unfair. It was extremely dangerous to Mr. Musk's estate that Paul Graham used his clout to entice people to switch to Mastodon. This was nothing but a display of unswerving loyalty and adherence to Mr. Musk's vision.

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Having a personal website with contact information is not URL cloaking or plaintext onfuscation. Those TOS are ludicrous to begin with, but are not by any reasonable understanding written to say that you can not have a personal website with other social media.

Their argument isn't that you can't have that website, but that you can't promote your other socials, on twitter, via it. Ridiculous, of course.

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Free speech!

This is not exactly free speech issue, because Twitter does not ban based on political preferences/opinions. This is dishonest competition (all other major companies do the same but not as blunt: Facebook, Google, Amazon for example). Twitter could be an exception. But it won't.

It's very likely an antitrust issue. This is a significant policy shift meant to stifle a competitor through market dominance rather than competition. I'd be surprised if the consumer protection bureau doesn't start an investigation

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He didn't link to his mastodon at all, did he? Twitter is one of the reasons I became an engineer - I was able to follow and see the mutterings of indie game devs in Copenhagen (vlambeer, if anyone knows them). 15 year old me responded the most inane things to their posts, but it exposed me to work ethics, communities, and possibilities in the computing world I never would have found growing up in Kentucky. I taught…

> He didn't link to his mastodon at all, did he? Very indirectly. He mentioned that his mastodon handle was at his site, which was linked in his twitter bio, and had said handle as the first line (excluding sidebars); only the handle, no links at all, but it's trivial to construct the link given that piece of information.

I like that a "link" is now just information that another webpage exists.

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It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

The message over the past week has been pretty clear -- the rules change without notice and will be changed based on what pisses elon off. That make Twitter now a niche message board. All of the elaborate justifications and explanations for buying Twitter and what was going on wrong over there while it was public have been thrown out the window, no matter what your point of view was. The fact that this most recent on…

> Twitter's equivalent event of what happened to Digg and Myspace.

A closer equivalent might be what happened to Freenode.

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Having a personal website with contact information is not URL cloaking or plaintext onfuscation. Those TOS are ludicrous to begin with, but are not by any reasonable understanding written to say that you can not have a personal website with other social media.

It's not like he said he'll just write on his site from now on, and got banned because his site also has links to his other social media.

He expressly said you can find his mastodon, a prohibited social media site as outlined by Twitter, on his website.

So he was promoting his mastodon with non-technical means and circumvented the new policy. While linking to the new policy... showing moderators he was well aware of it.

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Reconcile this with what you wrote: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604593057676300288

That’s not really my job. If you want him to resolve the discrepancy between what he Tweeted and what’s on the policy page, you should ask him.

I do agree that there’s a discrepancy there, to be clear, and I think the policy is ridiculous no matter how you read it. I also think it’s bad that Musk is shooting from the hip in confusing ways.

Given that PG got suspended, the weight of evidence seems to be that my interpretation is correct. If Elon clarifies, I’ll certainly edit!

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