Promotion of alternative social platforms policy • Hacker News Board

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by CatWChainsaw » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #310

praptak wrote: post #298

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Musk gets this kind of scathing critique because of the baseline. Many people here believed the hype, so they feel obliged to shake it off and shout it from the rooftops. Putin on the other hand is just a murderous dictator which is basically the consensus, so nobody feels the need to repeat this.

Plenty of idiots still following Putin and carrying water for him.

Putin's enemies are statistically more likely to jump out of hotel rooms on higher floors than Musk's.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by malepoon2 » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

est31 wrote: post #108

When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…

> people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found on mastodon, and then move back in a few weeks after giving up on the experiment

My Mastodon feed felt very empty a few months ago, but nowadays it's pretty good. A lot of folks switched or set up cross-posting, many of them not technical. Mastodon is doing much better than I expected back then.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by wfaler » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

sshine wrote: post #382

wfaler wrote: post #291

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Forgive me for being stupid, but why would any consumer want an "everything app"? It's not exactly a compelling need I've ever heard anyone express. Yes, multiple things can be combined, but if it works, probably just coincidence.

> why would any consumer want an "everything app"? 1. Everyone else has it 2. You can pay with it anywhere (pay in shops, pay people, pay online) The Apple and Android app stores are everything apps.

"Everyone else has it (China)" doesn't make me want one.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by captainmuon » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

Seriously, why do employees at Twitter comply with all this? Just because Musk signed some paper shouldn't mean that he gets to decide. (Don't say he is the owner and has the rights, I know the factual legal situation. I'm talking about what should be.) We need more civil disobedience. Somebody should "occupy" the servers. Somebody should say "no". And because they are organized, when Musk tries to kick them out, security would just shrug and stand aside. Seriously, I thought there were more rebellious people in SV.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by jacquesm » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

I think Musk fails to understand what the 'social' in social media stands for, if people can no longer freely link to content elsewhere on the web then that's the end of Twitter. Social media exists by virtue of its inbound and outbound links.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by CatWChainsaw » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

greenthrow wrote: post #396

CatWChainsaw wrote: post #364

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Implying it wasn't already a dry well? Remember, he called one of the divers who rescued the Thai schoolboys "pedo guy" because the diver made a statement he didn't like. When the diver took him to court (I forget if it was libel or slander or defamation), Musk got away with it because "pedo guy" was clearly a nickname, not insinuating that this person commits atrocious crimes and we should all attack him.

I agree with you but they excused his banning of journalists the other day under the baloney "his kid was in danger" malarky. This doesn't have any fig leaf they can grab onto.

So the next play is either a gish gallop or a whataboutism salvo, if I've got the last ten years or so correct.

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Post by concinds » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

operator-name wrote: post #361

jrmg wrote: post #270

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It is very clearly against the rules as written. They cover “…linking out (i.e. using URLs) to any of the below platforms on Twitter…”

> We recognize that certain social media platforms provide alternative experiences to Twitter, and allow users to post content to Twitter from these platforms. In general, any type of cross-posting to our platform is not in violation of this policy, even from the prohibited sites listed above. I think it would be classified as cross posting a newsworthy event.

Cross-posting can mean posting the same content on two platforms, not linking to content on another platform. Linking to Facebook would likely still earn him a ban.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by Chinjut » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

modeless wrote: post #404

ancapsfascists wrote: post #398

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The policy says comments like, "follow me @ on Instagram" are explicitly forbidden. One could very easily argue linking to ones own Facebook post could fall afoul.

One could argue that but one would be wrong because cross-posting is clearly allowed if you read the whole policy instead of just the first section.

There's no need to defend Elon here. Clearly what will happen is highly capricious enforcement based on who he personally likes and dislikes.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Post by ZeroGravitas » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

root_axis wrote: post #174

tlogan wrote: post #117

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I genuinely believed that he would try to allow more free speech on Twitter. There was a small chance that the experiment will succeed. I guess he never wanted that: he just lied. But why?

> he just lied. But why? Because lying helped further his narrative in the public which is advantageous to him. Similar to how he lied for years about FSD.

Or perhaps more damning, since FSD was a prediction which are notoriously hard, he lied about his academic credentials and immigration status for decades, which is harder to excuse.

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Post by zmibes » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 6:57 PM UTC

mastercheif wrote: post #409

zmibes wrote: post #231

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Any non-abserd definition of free speech concerns the expression of ideas rather than allowing hyperlinks to competitor platforms. I don't see this as a violation of free speech at all

Bookmarking this comment to remind myself in the future how far people will twist their logic to fit their narrative. Thank you for making this so clear for me.

Happy to help :)