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ZLibrary domains have been seized by the United States Postal Inspection Service

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Post by DoItToMe81 »

IceWreck wrote: post #283
pilimi_anna wrote: post #103

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Holy shit! Did not see this coming, but glad we saved this collection just in time. (I'm Anna, the one who made the backup). We are working on hosting this collection, as well as saving other large collections. Please consider supporting us, donation details at http://pilimi.org (we'll set up a patreon-like system soon)

Hey, why not push the collection (the extra books) back to libgen

If you're asking why Zlibrary didn't, it's because they got greedy and wanted to soak up donations that might go to Libgen by piggybacking off of their servers and having individual uploads for their own.

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Post by Ruthalas »

freefaler wrote: post #355
Ruthalas wrote: post #174

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A chemistry textbook of mine was 600 USD- brand new because the version published that year was required. That really stung.

Why doesn't students pull their funds for 1 book and then scan it and use that electronic copy? (and may be return/resell the physical book)?

That's not a bad plan from a cost perspective, though scanning a 200+ page textbook is reasonably complex, and very time consuming.

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Post by Mindless2112 »

user3939382 wrote: post #386
BirAdam wrote: post #345

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In my experience, people in the USA don’t extend their moral virtues to foreign countries, and when they do it’s common for this to be done in an unequal fashion. Often, people will respond telling you that you’re guilty of “what-about-ism” despite you merely universalizing a value that they themselves claim to have. I’ve ceased trying to converse about moral virtues with my fellow Americans as a result. It’s every b…

That's a new trend, to dismiss hypocrisy by calling it whataboutism. IMHO the latter only legitimately applies where the comparison is tangential/apples to oranges, or if "two wrongs don't make a right" is being argued.

"Appeal to hypocrisy" was recognized as a logical fallacy long before it was called "whataboutism".

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Post by droopyEyelids »

ccine wrote: post #200

I have tried my best to skim through all the discussions and no one seems to have noticed the demand for zlibrary in third world countries. In a country like China, it is the only avenue for most researchers and students at the bottom to gain expertise. When you talk about classism, you should not ignore such groups.

This is one of the strongest arguments for 'piracy' and it should be discussed more.

In the 'western' world piracy is a dubiously moral way to save money, and employed people can access the work by saving or doing a little more work like visiting a library.

But the copyright system prohibits much of the world from gaining knowledge and participating in culture. Over 1.9 billion people, or 26.2 percent of the world’s population, were living on less than $3.20 per day in 2015. This is not a particularly moral situation, and piracy directly addresses it at the expense of the western world's property rights.

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Post by droopyEyelids »

Mindless2112 wrote: post #413
user3939382 wrote: post #386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a new trend, to dismiss hypocrisy by calling it whataboutism. IMHO the latter only legitimately applies where the comparison is tangential/apples to oranges, or if "two wrongs don't make a right" is being argued.

"Appeal to hypocrisy" was recognized as a logical fallacy long before it was called "whataboutism".

The trouble is that while it's a logical fallacy, it's not so clearly a moral fallacy.

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Post by GTP »

literalAardvark wrote: post #405
GTP wrote: post #359

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Indeed, it is a reasonable assumption that it will get more valuable over time, as it is a scarce resource.

Gold is extremely common in the solar system. In the next few hundred years it's pretty likely that gold price will be marginal, as asteroid miners looking for less useless materials such as nickel, cobalt and platinum mine an excess. So no, unless for some hidden reason asteroid mining doesn't work out, which is pretty unlikely given how badly the developed world needs that material.

But wouldn't use such miners make the extraction cost higher?

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Post by code_duck »

literalAardvark wrote: post #405
GTP wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, it is a reasonable assumption that it will get more valuable over time, as it is a scarce resource.

Gold is extremely common in the solar system. In the next few hundred years it's pretty likely that gold price will be marginal, as asteroid miners looking for less useless materials such as nickel, cobalt and platinum mine an excess. So no, unless for some hidden reason asteroid mining doesn't work out, which is pretty unlikely given how badly the developed world needs that material.

Gold is quite useful as a corrosion-resistant conductor. If it wasn’t, cheaper metals would be used in its place in electronics.
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