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Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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> Kids adore doing whatever their parents are doing Sometimes I worry that many parents focus in "teaching" or "instilling" a desired behavior at the expense of "role-modeling" it through personal lived demonstration. The latter can be far more powerful because of how kids are hardwired to mimic adults... at least up until a certain age where they go the opposite way. :P > Maybe I should dig up some old IBM PCs It's…

I was playing with my baby's fisher-price rotary phone (the rolling one with the googly eyes) and realized that in the past they would have had much more fun playing with it, since they saw mommy and daddy doing the same thing. It's unfortunate that much of the tools we use today exist virtually, making our kids interests totally virtual as well.

Yeah, there are some interactive My First Digital Device things out there (or baby-software to run on a real tablet one) but IMO that is a double-edged sword with respect to physical activity and screen-time addiction.

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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"Do no work and be with your kid" is probably a rarity, but the impression I have is that in traditional indigenous cultures you could do work around your home or village, in a rich social environment of other women and mothers, while being with your baby. People living this way of life are not working themeslves to the bone; they spend lots of time just hanging out and socializing. I think the gruling overwork that…

> I think the gruling overwork that most of us experience is more a feature of fuedal and then industrial culture, than a natural state of existence. Sure, but so are a lot of other features like modern medicine, communications, transportation, that come with industrial culture. Assuming that you are talking about making the privilege of being a stay-at-home parent universal (independent of one's financial means), th…

I've been looking at real-estate in Austin recently -- all those tiny 1950s houses are still around, and they are not cheap! So I don't think the main causal factor is everyone living in 3000 square foot McMansions.

Plus, technology has made us way more capable -- productivity has increased a lot since the '50s, but wages have not kept up.

Which makes me think it's more of an organizational / incentives kind of thing, rather than a pure amount of wealth kind of thing.

(Something similar going on to the way in an purely competitive market, profits tend to get driven to 0, but with wages and quality of life, perhaps?)

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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Exactly. They somehow managed to do it without men?

Since when needs a woman a man to make a baby ? As far as i know this has not been the case since at least 2000 years.

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Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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> People's role in society shouldn't be determined by their biology, Why not (even if only partially)? Biology at the individual level has physical consequences, which necessarily affects the available roles and roles chosen. It makes no sense to expect that this relationship is different in aggregate.

You're seriously saying that in a forum dedicated to software engineering and technology?

I'm not sure what you're implying or maybe what you are thinking I implied. Maybe you think I have veered off topic for the forum, despite the topical article under discussion?

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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It's election season and I've been out talking to voters, who share their life stories... what I would say is that there are many women who are choosing WFH because they either can't afford or can't find day care, which may lead to deciding that hey, they might as well have another baby if they are now committed to this employment model. I've spoken to several women who were over-qualified for the jobs they had taken…

> women have stepped up for their families often to the detriment of their own careers Forcing 2 household incomes was/is awful for a healthy society. Women are the only humans that can produce children and they have to do it during a relatively short time window - especially if we want to reproduce at replacement level. Raising children should be regarded as one of the most important things a woman can do because th…

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It's election season and I've been out talking to voters, who share their life stories... what I would say is that there are many women who are choosing WFH because they either can't afford or can't find day care, which may lead to deciding that hey, they might as well have another baby if they are now committed to this employment model. I've spoken to several women who were over-qualified for the jobs they had taken…

I'm waiting for the day when an article like this doesn't result in someone turning it into a men vs women thing.

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I didn't assume anything, just stated a historical fact. It is possible for parents and grandparents to structure their lives around it being convenient for the traditional role. The fact that American society doesn't do this is a bit of a tragedy. I know families that engage the entire extended family, including grandparents, in raising the next generation. (In fact, its an evolutionary thing. It answers the questio…

Well, if we're in the business of stating "historical facts", I think it's more accurate to state that the traditional role of women was to care for the kids while the father worked. That is, I wouldn't give too much credence to these kinds of "historical facts" on "traditional roles".

Why assume generations of people didn't know anything about being human?

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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this is the same in the UK. Childcare costs are abhorrent. As a sample of one, I have twins at ~2yrs old. We pay ~£3,000 per month between private nanny and private nursery. It's literally 2x our mortgage cost.

We were in exactly the same position in the UK, putting our twins into nursery from a very early age so my wife and I could continue our careers. In retrospect we regret it somewhat, as it clearly affected them negatively. But it has been positive financially downstream. At least you know you can afford to privately school them later on to make up for it.

Curious to know how you thought it effected them negatively.

Wondering whether I can see any similar signs…

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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It's election season and I've been out talking to voters, who share their life stories... what I would say is that there are many women who are choosing WFH because they either can't afford or can't find day care, which may lead to deciding that hey, they might as well have another baby if they are now committed to this employment model. I've spoken to several women who were over-qualified for the jobs they had taken…

> women have stepped up for their families often to the detriment of their own careers Forcing 2 household incomes was/is awful for a healthy society. Women are the only humans that can produce children and they have to do it during a relatively short time window - especially if we want to reproduce at replacement level. Raising children should be regarded as one of the most important things a woman can do because th…

Immigration is a perfectly good way of "keeping a society going" in the face of declining birth rates. Of course, fetishism of "western" might be contraindicated

Re: Remote work may have fueled a baby boom among U.S. women

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> women have stepped up for their families often to the detriment of their own careers Forcing 2 household incomes was/is awful for a healthy society. Women are the only humans that can produce children and they have to do it during a relatively short time window - especially if we want to reproduce at replacement level. Raising children should be regarded as one of the most important things a woman can do because th…

Immigration is a perfectly good way of "keeping a society going" in the face of declining birth rates. Of course, fetishism of "western" might be contraindicated

It's "perfectly good" so long as you have other societies with high birthrates. The people immigrating need to come from somewhere.
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