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It's Fox News. I don't think they have any ethical care whatsoever.

Oh, I'm sort of aware of that reputation (of Fox News), but I just read 'Carlson', not a name I know.

Tucker Carlson. He is pretty much the face of Fox News and conservative media in general right now.

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I don't think Kanye West saying that he suffers from bipolar disorder is a rumor.

Not that it makes it better, but Elon also said he suffered from bipolar disorder.

He's also claimed that he has Asperger's, without any evidence.

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

So apparently its evident to a lot of people on hacker news that kanye has a mental illness and is making bad decisions because of it. If this is the case why hasnt someone tried to take power of attorney or something similar here?

> why hasnt someone tried to take power of attorney or something similar here?

There is, at least in principle (and certainly for people who can afford lawyers, as he certainly can) a very high bar for this. As there should be.

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His tweets _were_ getting engagement. They locked his account[1]. 1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2022/10/09/tw...

And now he is going to own a social media site so his account can't be locked.

I guess free speech is alive and well.

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How could an average outside observer distinguish between another's mental illness and a guy who's just a real out of the box thinker who might be wrong about many ideas but might also add value to the world by perceiving reality in an atypical way? A lot of posters are claiming Kanye is mentally ill and unable to manage his own affairs. What is the direct evidence of this? And I don't simply mean "provide examples o…

Kanye's mental illness is well documented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West#Mental_health

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I'm gonna be a contrarian here and say I'm genuinely excited to see what Yeezy does with the platform, assuming its not just a passing interest. For all his antics, his work in music and fashion is legit, and those two are a large reason people are on social media today. If we required artists be 100% free of mental illness, we would not have Van Gogh, Georgia O'Keeffe, Kusama Yayoi, Michelangelo, Brian Wilson, etc.…

There's even a word for this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_art

Just learned about this at the Mori Art Museum, since your username is dudeinjapan.

Re: Kanye West is buying Parler

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This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

That's not how his life story went at all.

His father was a photojournalist for the main newspaper in Atlanta and his mother was a Fulbright scholar. He grew up in a solid middle class suburb and he attended a magnet school for gifted kids before getting a scholarship to the American Acaedmy of Art. He started producing music for artists directly out of high school and was producing for Roc-A-Fella within 3 years of starting out in the music scene.

It was at Roc-A-Fella that he decided to be a rapper, and it took him all of 2 years to produce The College Dropout.

He lived an incredibly charmed life before he ever started rapping.

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Musk and everyone else is right that we do need a platform with free speech. The only problem is that all those free speech advocates are actually NIMBY's when it comes to free speech. I have been following self proclaimed free speech absolutists(because I too, believe in free speech but don't believe it exists) and they are totally not the kind of people that say "I hate what you say but I will die defending your ri…

> The only somewhat free place I've seen is 4Chan but it contains so much toxicity, that's its barely bearable.

It's very interesting that you don't see the straight line between "absolute" free speech and toxicity.

Absolute free speech IRL is moderated by physical and emotional stimuli and inhibitions against direct confrontation and bucking social norms. There are also legal repercussions, such as libel or defamation suits, for particularly harmful speech. The anonymity, and lack of accountability or feedback to one's words makes people far less inhibited online.

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Hey guys, I have an idea: why don't we try building free-speech protocols rather than free-speech platforms? Humans are fallible. We like to think we could build something where people can talk freely, but if the ability to censor something we don't like is presented, at some point nearly everybody will take that action because they personally deem it necessary for some greater good. Ultimately, protocols that cannot…

Because there is no money in protocols.

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To those who espouse the idea that comments should be filtered for the greater good, I say 'You first.' There was a time period when the left was for free speech and the right was wanting to constrain it. Maybe its just a giant pendulum - there is no right/left difference when it comes to free speech - everyone wants to censor / filter the speech of the opposite side. If things come in cycles, then I expect the right…

> There was a time period when the left was for free speech and the right was wanting to constrain it. When was this - and can you give examples of left and right acting the way you described in the past?

There are a lot of examples of this and the left has had some truly great advocates for free speech. In terms of time period, the Red Scare and Mccarthyism was a time when the left was being heavily censored by the right. The Civil Rights movements as well with MLK during the 1960s and then Frank Kameny in the 1970s trying to get rights for gays.

Other leftist advocates for free speech include Obama, Elenor Roosevelt, and Aryeh Neier are brilliant examples.

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