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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Who says I want a free service? A lot of the time there is no paid tier.

Or the paid tier is infested with ads and/or tracking.

Microsoft littered its frickin operating system with ads. Something you (officially at least) are expected to pay full price for. It boggles the mind that people continue to accept this treatment.

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> The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: - 1Blocker - super full featured, including custom script and css rules. business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or…

95% of users have no idea what any of this is.

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Well, the cookie popups are only there because of regulation. You are right about all the rest.

Please don’t spread the ad company’s lies. There is no need for pop ups under the gdpr. If you are handling personal information, giving cookies etc which aren’t required (E.g to sign in), then ask at the point of signing in/up. Otherwise you don’t need to set cookies, you might want to, to track and monetise your visitors, but that’s different.

How are you supposed to provide a consistent appearance for A/B testing changes without being able to store which group a user is assigned to? How are you supposed to count unique users that visit your site? How are you supposed to figure out why most users bounce? These are legitimate questions a publisher may want to know to improve their site, but are not allowed under GDPR without a specific notice and opt-out.

There are many cases where what publications consider "essential" for their business do not match what the EU has decided is "essential".

Heck, when GDPR was first proposed most publishers assumed advertising would be allowed under "essential" business uses since they can't provide content if they don't get paid. Clarification on this only came a couple of months before GDPR enforcement started, causing a bit of a scramble for publishers and advertisers.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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I categorically reject ads. I want them completely abolished. I will do everything that's in my power to get them out of my machines. If I had just a little bit more courage I would go out at night with cans of spray paint and deface billboards.

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They're not going away, point. If they get you acclimated to paying subscription fees they will then try to get you acclimated to paying subscription fees AND seeing ads. Have you watched a UFC pay-per-view event recently?

We should regulate or straight up outlaw it just like any other unchecked negative externality. I don't care if it makes you money. I don't care if poisoning the waterways makes you money either.

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I agree a lot of advertising is awful, but there is still some purpose in demonstrating your wares for potential customers. Suppose someone develops a product that you would love and would make your life better; how do you think you should find out about it?

The other day in the middle of reading an article a green border popped up around the entire page, blocking the beginning and ending of most sentences. At the bottom of the page was an advertisement for a Sonic burger. I felt assaulted. There is no reasonable justification or purpose for this that takes into account basic human empathy. Granted this might be different from ads that do just make you aware of a product…

I don’t think pointing out useless and intrusive advertising is the same as saying there should be no advertising at all. We can even agree that ALL current advertising is awful and should be abolished, but agree some form of promoting your product should be available.

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Thank you for all the NextDNS recommendations. I’ve been looking for something to help block adds that isn’t a VPN on iOS. Just curious what do folks think of AdGuard. I’ve seen that come up on Reddit but looking at their website it doesn’t look trustworthy and I couldn’t find info about what they actually track.

The great thing about Adguard for Safari is that you don't need to trust them. They load a blacklist that the OS can read and then blocks accordingly. Compared to extensions on Chrome which can see everything you do.

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How do you propose sites/YouTube channels monetise themselves (for sustenance or profit)?

I'm not responsible for Youtube's business plans. Don't they pay executives a lot of money to make their business plans for them?

And they have, as a consumer you can choose ads or Premium. Some want neither, so out of curiosity I'm asking, how do they see things if not those two options?
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