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Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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managed postgres

Heroku's pg is ridiculously good. I recently wrote a document that demonstrates what Fly's pg is capable of at https://fly.io/docs/rails/the-basics/backup-and-restoring-da... . It obviously not nearly as extensive as Heroku's pg offering, but for some people its enough—for others not so much.

It seems like managed pg improvements aren’t high up on the priority list (there’s a mention of outsourcing it to a third-party like supabase[1]), so I’d just like to +1 this request — for personal projects the snapshots are fine, but I’m starting a new role where I wanted to use fly but without easier backup/restore it’s likely a non-starter.

A small request: it would also be useful if `fly volumes snapshots list vol_123…` included the time they were taken, not just “n days ago”. If I’m having to rollback, it would be good to tell my team & users exactly when I’m rolling back to!

[1] https://community.fly.io/t/postgresql-database-backup-restor...

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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As an occasional hobbyist user of Heroku’s free tier, what other providers do you recommend? Fly.io?

A bit more context if it matters, I use it very lightly, and I’m interested on ease of use and ability to have a DB attached to it (I was using PostgreSQL, but any SQL DB would do it).

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heroku's pg is ridiculously good. I recently wrote a document that demonstrates what Fly's pg is capable of at https://fly.io/docs/rails/the-basics/backup-and-restoring-da... . It obviously not nearly as extensive as Heroku's pg offering, but for some people its enough—for others not so much.

Second this — Heroku pg is the main reason I've stayed with them, paying $$$/month to host my service. If Fly (or Render) can match the seamlessness of that experience, that'll be where I host next.

Would it be OK if service like https://www.crunchydata.com was integrated with Fly?

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Headline: Formerly free account in tech that got many adopters on the free platform isn't going to have a free account option anymore. "Users are "Tied into" the solution now, so we can afford to piss them off," says CEO. "Also, we'd like to pick their pocket now that we got them hooked on our crack rock."

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#415

We pay Heroku thousands of dollars a month for our Staging and Production environments, and one of the reasons we chose them is that we can spin up a toy widget or proof of concept in seconds for free : we probably do a few of those a day, play around with them for a few days or weeks, and then kill them. Now that these toys aren't free, I would guess likely to move them to AWS or GCP (since they're likely to be chea…

I only pay $16 dollars for a web and a Postgres dynos, but I have a free redis connected to my production instance.

My staging environment, which I use very occasionally to double-check major changes, is all free dynos.

I know, I know... but they offered, and I took it. Now if I have to pay for Redis that will be $31 per month - so more expensive, for less functionality, unless I double it to $62.

Just seems meh to go from $16 to $62 and not get anything in return.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#417

We're a large Heroku user currently spending $10-20k/month. This change may lead us to switching to another platform. We host a lot of individual apps, many that only need free tier DBs and Redis. This change will roughly double the cost of a basic app on pro dynos + DB + redis, from $25/m to $49/m, with no additional benefit. Heroku is already very expensive. $25/m for 512MB RAM is laughable. At $49/m we could get a…

> At $49/m we could get a decent bare metal server for each of our apps. From where/with what kind of specs? $49/m sounds still well within VPS territory unless I'm wrong.

There are a lot of companies that offer dedicated servers for under $50/m.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

#418

The public roadmap is a good idea but highlights how stale the product has become. https://github.com/heroku/roadmap/issues Only now researching adding Cloud Native Build Packs and HTTP2. This will reaffirm for many the sense that Heroku is being dismantled from within. Feature sunsetting and removal of a free on-ramp doesn't help. If you're looking for a production alternative to Heroku checkout Northflank. https://…

I'd like to +1 for Northflank. I've been using it for a few months for smaller projects and experiments, and the dashboard and overall experience has been great. Free tier is good enough to run small apps, and pricing is very competitive. Also got a lot of rapid email support from the Northflank staff when I ran into issues.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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post #278

We're a large Heroku user currently spending $10-20k/month. This change may lead us to switching to another platform. We host a lot of individual apps, many that only need free tier DBs and Redis. This change will roughly double the cost of a basic app on pro dynos + DB + redis, from $25/m to $49/m, with no additional benefit. Heroku is already very expensive. $25/m for 512MB RAM is laughable. At $49/m we could get a…

Since they specifically called out abuse of free services, I wonder if they would be open to continuing free dynos for paying customers. It'd be worth reaching out at least.

We pay for all of our dynos so that doesn't concern me. I'm much more concerned with Redis going from $0 to $15 since 95% of our apps don't need the paid tier of redis.

Re: Removal of Heroku free product plans

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Chapter 11?

…you think Salesforce is going into bankruptcy because Heroku is getting rid of its one good on-ramp? Slack _alone_ is enough to keep Salesforce profitable for decades to come.

Salesforce is having a hiring stop and doing all sorts of weird stuff such as targeting smb with 'easy salesforce' self service.

This feels like a company that is trying to lift numbers somehow short term.

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