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DuckDuckGo Removes Pirate Sites and YouTube-DL from Its Search Results

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Post by iinnPP »

bduerst wrote: post #195
TheWill wrote: post #185

Quit using DDG when they decided to start censoring stuff. Been using brave search ever since, it's actually pretty good.

Didn't Brave get caught inserting their own affiliate links into search results when you clicked on them?

I would rank that pretty low on my list of things to worry about a search engine doing. Actually, to me, that would be relatively fair in terms of monetization of a search engine product.

I would turn the feature on if asked by a reputable and well-meaning company. Especially in the case of a search engine seeing as they are providing the link afterall.

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Post by crtasm »

yegg wrote: post #395
m55au wrote: post #391

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Atass.com&t=ffab&df=m&ia=web vs https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Atass.com&tbs=qdr%3Am

Not sure what is going on with those URL params, but I see results just fine at https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Atass.com and in any case an easier way to do things is to not use a site search but just put the domain or name in the query like 'ukraine tass' and something from that site will usually come up on top.

GP's links include a filter for "past month".

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Post by freediver »

srg0 wrote: post #367
t0bia_s wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are so many issues with DDG, but nobody cares [1]. Idea of having privacy focused search engine is strong. Then use kagi or searX. [1] https://lemmy.ml/post/31321

How is kagi more private? It requires an account to use, and it’s going to be a paid service. So it always has a strong user ID associated with every query. Whether it is not stored and not processed cannot be verified. It’s the same story about trust.

(Kagi dev here)

Being a paid service means Kagi's incentives are different. Instead of selling your data or profiting from feeding into ad-tech food chain, we are interested in selling you a subscription.

We do not associate queries with an account, as a matter of fact we do not save queries at all. You are right that this can not be verified, the question you need to ask yourself is what kind of incentive we have for misusing user data in any way.

Unless users want us to do start using their search history to improve quality of searches (something we may introduce as an option in the future as we've been asked to), we have no reason to do so.

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Post by iinnPP »

Marsymars wrote: post #408
vbezhenar wrote: post #184

I ditched DDG after it started to "downrank Russian disinformation". Thanks, I'll decide for myself where real disinformation belongs to. It became just another tool of western propaganda. I'm not sure if Google does that, but at least they don't paint themselves as good guys anymore.

Russian disinformation is effectively spam. It’s akin to if your search results about copyright policy got polluted by SEO’d, backlink-filled, MPAA-funded blog spam about the evils of piracy and the Joy Of Disney that pushed down legitimate information about copyright policy.

The problem is that with only one side of a story, you never get a truthful story. The usefulness of having both sides of the story cannot be overstated.

Otherwise the side telling the story doesn't even have to try and keep it realistic and can forgo any notion of truth. Allowing for more blatant lies to spread as truth.

It is a very complex problem that I would say is best fought in early childhood development, by teaching our coming generations methods of discovering truth.

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Post by iinnPP »

Vladimof wrote: post #52
thematrixturtle wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google pushed the envelope on how silly the name for a major company can be, but DuckDuckGo is unlikely to ever hit mass market success with that name. (Or, more importantly, the current implementation.)

Google even gave duck.com to them, for free, I think I used duckduckgo on and off for probably a year ... might as well use Bing if you like it

I don't think Google does anything for free. Sure provides a good reason not to use it.

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Post by freediver »

amelius wrote: post #246
californical wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found Kagi[0] from somewhere on HN -- they make pretty strong privacy claims, and are in a closed Beta stage right now (you can give them your email, and they'll send you a signup link within a week or two). They're planning to charge a fixed rate for their search engine once they're out of beta later this year. So far, it seems to be working really well for me! Results are pretty excellent, and they support the DD…

How do we know these privacy claims are true? What if Kagi was Chinese or Russian, would you still trust it and why? And how do we know Kagi doesn't end up the same way as DDG?

(Kagi dev here)

Kagi is privately owned US corporation.

> And how do we know Kagi doesn't end up the same way as DDG?

Being a paid service means Kagi's incentives are very different. Instead of selling your data or profiting from feeding into ad-tech food chain, we are interested in selling you a subscription. This changes everything as the number one thing in Kagi's universe becomes what the users want, different to DDG, Google and other ad-supported search engines.

> How do we know these privacy claims are true?

Sadly I can not think of a way to verify them (let me know if you have one). But most plainly, we have no incentive or reason to do otherwise. Note that the only private information Kagi asks of the user is an email address, need to create an account, and those concerned can use whatever email they want.

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Post by Kiro »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #400
jfengel wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't really get the knowledge of its existence if it's one of thirty million hits. A search engine that includes everything is a kind of Library of Babel. The info is there but it doesn't help you.

I am the only one who may say that.

No-one wants to see 99.99999% of the spam sites that gets purged in Google's filter. Look at all the complaints of the 0.00001% that gets through.

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Post by rolph »

ajyotirmay wrote: post #339
rolph wrote: post #37

a search using; anyterm :: torrent still returns alot of results for me sofar. and so does youtube-dl; top result is : github.com/ytdl-org

That's the github link, not youtube-dl website :)

I can still reach it yt-dl.org

and as youve noticed the repo is still part of search results as well.

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