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You are manipulating the word “forced” so it doesn’t sound so bad. Just because it doesn’t use physical force doesn’t mean it isn’t forced.
It isn't forced.
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#413Also keep in mind that in the backdrop of all this is the fact that our Prime Minister has called the protesters racists and misogynists. Probably inspiring someone who ran over some protesters in Winnipeg. Canadian news and politicians are desperately trying to denounce the protesters while ignoring the fact that Canada has some of the harshest Covid restrictions in the world at the moment, while the US has hardly a…
Justin "I can't remember how many times I wore blackface" Trudeau calling anyone "racist" is rich: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/sep/19/justin-trudeau... Also, how does protesting COVID mandates make someone "racist and misogynist?" Is he just saying that because they're truckers?
> how does protesting COVID mandates
Uhh, I think calling for the overthrowing of the federal government[0] is a little more than just protesting a covid mandate lol. To be clear, I'm not saying overthrowing the federal gov't is racist or misogynist. I'm just saying that clearly there is a lot more going on than that
[0] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/28/canada-trucker...
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They're protesting against mandates. Which most of the world is lifting... And I'm not on the truckers' side per se... But the response from the government has been shocking and I'm sure as hell not on the government's side. For the record, I'm vaccinated. Not an anti-vaxxer. Literally just went to Europe and came back. Getting out of and back into Canada was the most onerous part of the trip.
Just to be clear, the government of Canada doesn't mandate vaccination of truckers, what it mandates is for non-vaccinated individuals (which includes truckers) that are entering Canada through the border that they must get tested and quarantine on entry.
So if you can't prove vaccination on entry, you need to have a proof of negative test and quarantine a few days.
I just want to point that out, because it seems the media has taken to make it sound like the Canadian government wants to force vaccinations on truckers, it doesn't, but it's enforcing safety measures around border entry, and depending on your vaccination status, those measures are possibly more inconvenient.
The other thing I want to bring up is that in Canada, the government, and I'm turn the tax payers, they subsidize and pay for medical treatment of people who have COVID and need treatment.
So it makes more sense that you'd want to make sure people take necessary preventative measures, otherwise you're having tax payers pay the bill.
Some people in Canada are even suggesting that instead of such preventative measures, if people want to be allowed to take their own risk, then the treatment for COVID for individuals that didn't take preventative precautions shouldn't be offered to them for free and shouldn't be prioritized over other medical interventions. But this is pretty extreme as well, and while reasonable, Canadians don't really want to just let someone in need of medical treatment to not be able to get it. So the general sentiment is that you'd rather make sure everyone is taking necessary precautions and cover people who need treatment no matter what. But as people push back on precautions, the idea to be stricter on who gets access to subsidized treatment will probably become more and more popular, especially with regards to vaccination status.
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Choices do have consequences, but that does not mean those consequences are just, or that someone can just say those are the consequences take-it-or-suffer.
Like I said, we've had vaccine and testing requirements for many jobs for decades. No one lost their mind. You are being manipulated by right wing politicians.
What we did in the past does not negate the right for anyone to be skeptical about future inventions and developments.
Also, it is very presumptive of you to believe that I must listen to or am swayed by politicians to hold such beliefs.
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You do know that the vast majority of jobs in Canada do not require being vaccinated, right? Did you know that vaccine requirements for certain jobs have existed for decades, and no one has lost their minds like this? Do you think it’s possible that right wing politicians are purposely trying to cause outrage over something that has been a normal and accepted practise in order to further their political goals?
When was there a requirement in our history to be vaccinated to shop for your groceries?
There isn't one now.
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#418I reported a funeral fundraiser for a criminal gang where i live a few weeks ago to Gofundme. These funerals involve reckless, high speed driving by hundreds of bikies wearing Swastika vests who hurl violence/verbal abuse at people if they happen to get in the way. I provided all this info and they didn't do anything. A reasonable person would think a Gofundme for a group who derive their income from the methamphetam…
Behold, the new "Get off my lawn!"
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Take it or get fired. That is being forced for all intents and purposes. Shaq said it well: https://twitter.com/ginacarano/status/1489421001918083073
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> Many jobs have had vaccine and testing requirements for decades and nobody lost their mind
Yes, "many", not "all". Do you think we're still in "many" territory or are we trending towards "all"?
The requirements changing for a job they may have had for decades is also a legitimate reason to be upset.
Let's not pretend there aren't legitimate concerns here.
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The vaccine isn’t being forced on anyone. Body autonomy is no more being violated here than any other time in history where vaccines have been required to do certain things, of which there are many examples. Not to mention, all the things you listed at the start of your comment have been done by the Ottawa occupiers. I don’t like to call them truckers because most are not, and most truckers are against this occupatio…
It is being forced. If you can experience significant losses or risks unless you comply, that’s being forced. You’re being disingenuous. It’s easy to see where this breaks down - per your logic a mobster running a protection racket isn’t forcing anyone to pay extortion money either.
Please omit personal swipes from your comments here. This flamewar is bad enough already.