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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes

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Post by skilled »

scarface74 wrote: post #22

I think Joe Rogan is an idiot. But, if anything, Spotify should have just posted a disclaimer somewhere stating these aren’t their views, with some links to reputable sources - even their own “Science Vs” podcast. It’s not like now the people who believed what he was saying are going to shrug their shoulders and start reading the “New England Journal of Medicine”.

I think it's unfair for you to call him an idiot. Have you seen his video[0] on the "controversy" surrounding him at the moment? I think it will greatly enlighten you as to who the idiot is in this situation.

[0]: https://www.instagram.com/p/CZYQ_nDJi6G/?hl=en

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Post by null0pointer »

Moto7451 wrote: post #346
TrispusAttucks wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify competing with YouTube isn't the root problem. The people calling for censorship are the problem. This is the latest attack in an ongoing war on free speech. We are losing our freedoms. Today it's Joe Rogan's speech tomorrow it's yours.

The First Amendment protects us from the government censoring speech. It is not a prohibition on private companies removing content or private citizens demanding the removal of speech they disapprove of. The fact that this discourse can happen in the open is proof that free speech exists and is in force. If the Biden administration could control speech they could ban anyone suggesting anything other than the official…

Once again we have someone here conflating the first amendement with free speech. Free speech is a principle, the first amendment works in service of it.

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Post by thatjoeoverthr »

pschastain wrote: post #355
TrispusAttucks wrote: post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spotify competing with YouTube isn't the root problem. The people calling for censorship are the problem. This is the latest attack in an ongoing war on free speech. We are losing our freedoms. Today it's Joe Rogan's speech tomorrow it's yours.

This is not an attack on free speech, this is free market economics at work. Spotify is free to promote and profit from whomever they please, and other creative artists are free to take their work elsewhere. Market demand will determine the outcome. The First Amendment states "Congress shall make no law ..."; it says only what the *gov't* can and cannot do

Privatized censorship is censorship. We were discussing censorship. We are not discussing your particular government. This may surprise many Americans but people are not always talking about the US government.

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Post by PUSH_AX »

afavour wrote: post #188

I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…

> If he hadn’t done it he’d have none of these problems.

I disagree, unless he has his own on prem platform. Which isn’t beyond the realm of possibility.

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Post by imgabe »

afavour wrote: post #188

I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…

His previous method of distribution was YouTube, which notoriously removes and demonetizes content without warning or appeal, so the move to Spotify was meant to guard against that.

I suppose at this point he could easily fund hosting the content himself if he can get out of the contract with Spotify.

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Post by Dma54rhs »

dtemp wrote: post #184
ahmed_ds wrote: post #131

I think I speak for the majority of people here. Before the Spotify deal, you would just see couple of Joe Rogan clips on YouTube and you have sat through maybe 3-4 entire podcasts. You don't care much about MMA or you don't think comedians are that important/hypeworthy as the JRE fandom would claim. After the Spotify deal you just slowly stopped even seeing the clips because for some reason you just don't care to se…

When I heard of JRE many years ago, I said to myself, "do I care to hear the endless opinions of the former host of Fear Factor? Nope." And that was that, never even decided to give it a try with so much other potential content available.

People don't like JRE because what he has to say but because he let's his guests speak. It's an an alternative to mainstream media's endless opinion stories and yelling how to live instead of reporting on things.

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concinds wrote: post #324
afavour wrote: post #188

I’m struggling to have sympathy with anyone involved in this. Podcasting has always felt like a resurgence of the “original web” spirit to me: anyone can upload, anywhere. All you need is an RSS feed and anyone can subscribe. Then Spotify came busting in and decided that the open podcasting platform is obsolete and paid Joe Rogan $100 million for exclusive distribution of his content. So they’ve dug their own grave h…

The open web is dead. It's likely Rogan would have been banned from YouTube and Apple Podcasts had he not moved to Spotify. He could have moved to tiny platforms like Odysee or Rokfin that would likely have poor retention rates, or just relied on people adding his URL manually to Apple Podcasts, but come on. Nobody would do that. The "death of the open web" problem isn't creators somehow consistently choosing to empo…

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Post by fy20 »

thebigjewbowski wrote: post #269

I love Joe. I use Spotify exclusively to listen to his podcast. I listen to every episode… I wish there was a way to tell them if it wasn’t for his show I’d never use their app but I suspect they already know that. Unfortunately I think attacks on his having been prescribed ivermectin and his guests like the highly published cardiologist and the guy that contracts with the defense department and has patents related t…

Out of interest, did you listen before he went Spotify exclusive?

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Post by javajosh »

rektide wrote: post #257
TOMDM wrote: post #201

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I know it's a lost battle because anyone whose not a nerd will never care, but I wish we could all just call content that moves to a centralised platform like Spotify an internet talkshow or whatever and leave the word podcast to the people distributing MP3s via RSS.

This is what happens when you fail to write a RFC.

Being serious: do you really think a lack of RFC killed RSS? If so, why not submit one now? I feel like RSS could make a serious comeback if given a chance, like built-in browser support for it.

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Post by buzzwords »

Open Web is truly dead. It's such a shame too. Learning other people's view, even if you don't agree with them is an important part growing.

I have to say, I am quite resentful of people now. Because there was such amazing tool that you could learn other people's view and thoughts and a handful of loud mouths killed it.

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