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Almost as if reducing mortality/hospitalization is an irrelevant metric to you. Almost as if an abstract social construct as “rights” is more important to you than actual health.
Yes, personal freedom is to me infinitely more important than the health of others.
What on earth makes you think your personal freedom is more important than the health of others?
You have no right to harm others.
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But the point is that anti-vaccine people tend to be the hateful ones. Vaccines are a wedge issue. Lockdowns aren’t as much - if you’re already vaccinated. Honestly - almost no one really disagrees with that statement either. We all know it might not be helpful to get people vaccinated but we also know it’s true.
>But the point is that anti-vaccine people tend to be the hateful ones. Hi Trudeau! Listen, the issue here is that you cannot clump two uncorrelated issues together, and even if they were correlated, it wouldn't be fair as for sure there's people that (please sit down, this may me quite shocking to you) do not want to get the vaccine BUT are also not part of whatever group you refer to as "the hateful ones".
You absolutely can clump unrelated issues together when they’re specifically adopted by people who organize under a common banner or label. You don’t think that issues that make up “the liberal agenda” are reasonably well defined? Does it mean that literally every single liberal cares about all of them with the same fervor? Hell no, but it strongly predicts the views of someone who uses the label and the issues are cut so cleanly you can even make statements like “the typical person who cares strongly about native peoples identifies as a liberal.”
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> maybe PCR tests cranked to an absurd number of cycles c'mon, you're at least a year behind the conspiracy theory state of the art, we're on vaccine infertility now.
I guess you should email the NYT and ask them to stop peddling conspiracy theories: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testin... ?
I'm a bit confused by this article. AFAIK PCR tests are only reporting a positive at 35 cycles. The author of the article is correct that it is run for 40 cycles often, but this is only because a positive between 36-40 cycles indicates "unclear result" and the test is repeated with a different assay targeting a different component of the virus. Positive is only reported at 35 cycles max.
This should not pick up any "dead cells", it will pick up viral mRNA. There is a concern over picking up low loads, but the mRNA is still there.
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It is an unfortunate misconception that any of the currently-approved intramuscular vaccines reduce transmission to a meaningful degree. Vaccines absolutely do reduce transmission from the vaccinated outward. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newscientist.com/article/22...
your link does not work
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-l...
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I'm feeling more and more confident that your comments are intentionally snide and personal, so I'm going to bow out. Happy New Year to you and I hope 2022 brings you much joy and happiness.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
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I'm feeling more and more confident that your comments are intentionally snide and personal, so I'm going to bow out. Happy New Year to you and I hope 2022 brings you much joy and happiness.
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If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
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