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Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job

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Post by cj »

hermannj314 wrote: post #205
codegeek wrote: post #158

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But you used your father as an example and my question is if your father worked for both at the same time. That matters a lot. Your comparison is not appropriate because there is a huge difference between working a job and then working another job at a totally shift/time than working 2 remote jobs concurrently where you are supposed to be available for both.

My comparison is comparable because all the original post said was to work 2 jobs. This other post comes in and tries to equate working two jobs with contract violation. No - my dad worked one job during the day and the other at night. Why would you by default assume the worst in people? The original post was always about two jobs. Most people that work two jobs do so legally and ethically. What on Earth are you all…

Read a few posts on this blog and you might start to understand why people assume the worst: https://overemployed.com/

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Post by xupybd »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #355
sidcool wrote: post #304

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Thanks for your response. If I may continue to pick your mind, can you elaborate on what you consider new tech? Do you refer to new languages, frameworks, programming paradigms? Also, what is your suggestion for learning algorithms and data structures?

Examples of "new tech": common use of deep learning models in many types of applications and services, higher level web based tools for managing data and infrastructure, mobile devices that can do on-device deep learning model inferencing and sometimes even training, etc. I like and enjoy several programming languages, but I don't consider new languages and frameworks to be paradigm shifting. Still interesting though…

You touched on something I struggle with. If it's not too personal do you mind if I ask how you navigated that discussion with your wife?

I hold great hope that one day I'll be able to spend 5-10 hours a week learning.

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job

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Post by jasonladuke0311 »

guitarsteve wrote: post #187
rco8786 wrote: post #48

You just need to apply for roles with public companies that offer liquid equity. Very few of us are getting 250k+ on base salary alone. Most of us have the salary bands you’re already in, but have additional equity pay on top. It doesn’t have to be a FAANG either. There are loads of public companies out there hiring engineers at 250k total comp .

Agree! At least in the US, this kind of total comp is possible at my employer (Datadog) and many other public companies, not just FAANG mega-corps. Typically you’d have to be “senior” or “staff” engineer, or get lucky and join during a period of stock growth. The pandemic really changed things to make remote work more viable. Previously many companies limited it to exceptional cases (long tenure in-person followed by…

Yup, I’m at DDOG too and around $200K total comp as engineer 1. I wouldn’t be surprised if a bunch of SE2s are at $250k or more.

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Post by ativzzz »

throwawayboise wrote: post #383
ativzzz wrote: post #348

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> The pace of change is faster than the average person can keep up with and still be competent. The pace of change is faster than the average person can keep up with each change, but because more and more new technologies and niches are being created, there are more and more opportunities to be competent in a certain niche. It's also so much about your mindset. Seeing the difference in positive and negative mindset b…

I used to have that positive outlook. Work was exciting, and fun. Over time, the reality became impossible to deny.

Yup, that's why I'm trying to make the positive mindset a habit and hopefully keep it as I get older. We'll see how it ends up.

Re: Ask HN: Strategies to land fully remote $250k+ job

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Post by mod »

lr1970 wrote: post #374
mod wrote: post #315

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That's for lying, and I've never heard of anyone going to court over it. Omitting isn't the same. If you ask for references, I probably won't list people who will give me a bad reference, either.

> That's for lying, and I've never heard of anyone going to court over it. In the US employment is at will and can be terminated for cause or no cause at all, no need to go to court. Omitting important facts about employment history can be in violation of company policies. Some telecoms ask you to explicitly submit information for "employment history verification" as a condition of employment.

I'm well aware. Meeting requirements to be fired is a far stretch from meeting requirements to have legal sanctions.

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Post by jasonladuke0311 »

baobabKoodaa wrote: post #282
Rastonbury wrote: post #209

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If it's about timeframes it can be thought of as like a year end bonus being paid out when it vests. With some risks in terms of share price (which is like variable cash bonuses). The only reason most prefer cash is because it's a hard number that base increases/bonus are computed by and for negotiation in next job.

Please explain to me how you can't achieve your desired stock exposure by receiving cash and then buying stock on the public market with that cash?

Kind of irrelevant because you will likely never receive a cash comp package equivalent to your salary + RSU amount. If it were that simple, virtually everyone would take the cash.

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Post by UweSchmidt »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #219
UweSchmidt wrote: post #208

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Anyone who buys organically is buying after the HFT firms have made their buying decisions on the entirety of the market, it's not possible to "wait a day or two". The deal will be incrementally worse as these firms extract value, your price will be the one that all of these firms deemed "meh". It's like walking into a grocery store and the banana you really want it 1$ and you'll buy. Because that's the price that hi…

> Now that you can sell in a nanosecond your deal is bad, as in the moment you hear of the Volkswagen scandal all the trading algorithms are done with their work already. You can only sell in a nanosecond because someone else is willing to buy in a nanosecond. And if your goal is to earn money trading in time horizons of minutes or hours or even days, you probably are not equipped to do that as a retail investor. Why…

Not the right place to debate further but it seems this topic seems to be underdiscussed or I present my points not well enough. Certainly my goal is neither to earn money in horizons of days, nor to have arbitrage opportunities at all. All of that is nonsense and would assume the legitimacy of people who sit in front of computer screens looking at stock charts. Value creating is a long term endeavour and so should be investing.

If we let go of the mentality to "dump VW after the scandal before someone else" we find ourselves with bad news about VW and new conclusions about a good value for the stock and people buying and selling accordingly after all have ready their morning paper. A small Tobin tax or other technical measures can prevent unethical actors from taking the banana out of your shopping cart and pricing it within nanoseconds.

The supply-and-demand maximalism is a holdover from anticommunist thinking and ignores market distortions like Zillow's real estate buying.

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Post by vanusa »

deagle50 wrote: post #188
sofixa wrote: post #116

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2 weeks vacation per year is pitiful. Do people really get on and are happy with only that? I get 5 weeks ( minimum legal in France), i use it to the max and it's okay, but sometimes insufficient.

2 weeks (as in 10 non-holiday days) is pretty normal in the US, even if you get more. I get 4 paid but I barely take two and bank the rest. My European parents think I'm crazy but they're used to a pretty nice safety net when you get old, and the concept of early financial independence never entered their mind.

2 weeks (as in 10 non-holiday days) is pretty normal in the US, even if you get more.

But still pitiful and anti-health, on first principles. "Normal" though it may be in a workaholic and ideology-driven country like the U.S.

If it's a trade-off you choose to accept in exchange for early retirement, though, that's another matter.

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Post by pashamur »

tyingq wrote: post #86
cj wrote: post #21

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I recently fired an engineer who was working 3 full time jobs all paying $130k+. He ended up getting busted by all 3 companies at once, and all 3 fired him. Hopefully he can find a new job that doesn’t check references. If you care about your reputation, or if you have the slightest moral compass, don’t do this.

Three jobs is definitely pushing past what's realistic. 120 of 168 available hours in a week, hah! But, the sort of industry pearl-clutching about holding 2 jobs is interesting, when employers think nothing of making you work extra hours without comp, or be "on call" without comp, intellectual property clauses for stuff done on personal time, non-compete clauses, etc.

Isn't there always a contracting option where you can take on as many jobs as you'd like?

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Post by sizzle »

xupybd wrote: post #412
mark_l_watson wrote: post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Examples of "new tech": common use of deep learning models in many types of applications and services, higher level web based tools for managing data and infrastructure, mobile devices that can do on-device deep learning model inferencing and sometimes even training, etc. I like and enjoy several programming languages, but I don't consider new languages and frameworks to be paradigm shifting. Still interesting though…

You touched on something I struggle with. If it's not too personal do you mind if I ask how you navigated that discussion with your wife? I hold great hope that one day I'll be able to spend 5-10 hours a week learning.

Have an honest discussion and don’t make it an argument.
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